+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Yamaha is putting a lot of resources behind the launch of the RMX drivers. I see a lot about them in Choice magazine here they are via scan & translate. Let's start with this, more to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill3508 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 They look nice. What are the face angles on the various models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 They look nice. What are the face angles on the various models? All three are square faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Here is another picture from Yamaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Are the sleeves being sold seperately? Are you guys able to get them and how much are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 A lot of Japanese manufactuers are hesitant to sell sleeves seperately and this includes tourstage, and Yamaha for now for fear of people messing up and not having the club covered under warranty so for now, shafts must come sleeved from Yamaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 T, couldn't find any information on where the Drivers are manufactured? Saw in post that they are supposed to be made in China. Is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 T, couldn't find any information on where the Drivers are manufactured? Saw in post that they are supposed to be made in China. Is that true? I believe so, they are not Endo like years past :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Any feedback on the the drivers? Especially the tourmodel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) This is more of a question than a comment: I think maybe slowly but surely that almost everything will be eventually made in China. But does that necessarily have to be a bad thing? Can Japanese OEM's mandate higher spec's and tolerances to Chinese manufacturers, especially for higher-end lines? And more importantly, will they be adhered to? I would think that as long as Tourstage, RomaRo, etc. do not accept inferior quality product from their sources, consumers can be confident that they are getting the best-made products in the industry. This would, of course, still cost more vis-a-vis the USDM product but there are plenty of people around the globe that are willing to pay a premium to know they are getting close to perfect gear with great tolerances. Edited January 20, 2014 by Miuramaniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 This is more of a question than a comment: I think maybe slowly but surely that almost everything will be eventually made in China. But does that necessarily have to be a bad thing? Can Japanese OEM's mandate higher spec's and tolerances to Chinese manufacturers, especially for higher-end lines? And more importantly, will they be adhered to? I would think that as long as Tourstage, RomaRo, etc. do not accept inferior quality product from their sources, consumers can be confident that they are getting the best-made products in the industry. This would, of course, still cost more vis-a-vis the USDM product but there are plenty of people around the globe that are willing to pay a premium to know they are getting close to perfect gear with great tolerances. New golf club factories are not popping up in China like they used to, many have disappeared or consolidated into a handful of companies that produce almost everyones clubs. Even Japanese brands owned by the Chinese still choose to make their very best in Japan. The single biggest reason most brands don't build in Japan is price, everyone knows Endo is the best for irons, wedges, & drivers easily but they are also very expensive. Much of Endo made product is done in Thailand run by Endo Japan staff and still cost a lot. I think most JDM brands would jump to China or Taiwan in a heartbeat if they could offer quality like Endo at an affordable price which just isn't the case. I think there will be a shift to other countries in the future as China becomes more expensive. I keep thinking China's technology will catch up but at a certain level it doesn't equal Japanese manufacturing. The state of the JDM is a lot better today than it was in years past, smaller Japanese factories are re tooling and getting up to speed. Yamaha now uses smaller factories to produce the rest of the non Endo RMX lines irons. Outside of the golf industry companies like Canon, Sony, and even a few big auto brands are bringing back portions of manufacturing to Japan from overseas. It's really a good sign imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 They got some good shaft options! Speeder: It has a smooth flowing flex from tip to butt end, promoting a very automatic and natural flow for easy use. Tour AD MT6- (Has similar playability to the popular DI) It features a slightly stiffer tip section and slightly softer tip section to provide a full release of the head. Diamana W60- Softer flex closer to the hands with stiff tip section; flows very consistently through the impactzone. Attas5GoGo- Firmer near the hands and increased rigidness from mid section to tip staying very predictable and allowing players to go after shots without relying too much on timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankopotamus Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hey, thanks for the breakdown in the different shaft characteristics, Tats. I've been interested to try a new speeder shaft, as they released newer versions of some of their old ones last year, but can't find any information on them as they are Japan only (except the 757). My only other concern (besides lack of info) about buying a speeder is that they are more for the quick transition type swing that loads the shaft well, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Hey, thanks for the breakdown in the different shaft characteristics, Tats. I've been interested to try a new speeder shaft, as they released newer versions of some of their old ones last year, but can't find any information on them as they are Japan only (except the 757). My only other concern (besides lack of info) about buying a speeder is that they are more for the quick transition type swing that loads the shaft well, right? Hey shank... the new Speeders are definitely something to look at. First, I thought they just redid the make up on the old ones, but I was wrong. The new ones are much more stable. It is more "smooth and flowing" as they say. They do have a higher tolerance for the quicker transition swings, but if you were able to get along with the previous speeder, you should have no problems with it. I think the main difference in the new model is that shaft doesn't release as aggressively (making it feel smooth), where in the older model I thought the mid to tip section released very aggressively. Its hard to improve upon a very successful shaft like the Speeder, but I think they did it. Much easier to control Speeder IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Anyone hit them yet? Interested in the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Interested in that MT shaft, anybody hit it? But surely it doesn't have a stiffer AND softer tip, does it? ;) Edited February 6, 2014 by Miuramaniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I have a UST Attas GoGo Tour 7X waiting to go in something. This looks like a good driver to try out. But with it only being Feb in 2014 and the Japanese Golf Show just around the corner it's too early to pull the trigger on anything. Looking forward to Tourstage's 2014 offers, as well as Epon's, Onoff's, S-Yard, etc. So many choice drivers and shafts these days. Out of curiosity, Chris, Tario, which wedges are forged by Endo? Are there many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 BTW, the Callaway Big Bertha Alpha, although not JDM, has some serious R&D behind it and so far the reviews on Tour is that it's absolutely fantastic all around. I'm definitely picking one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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