Calvin Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 It is made in Japan. It is made with 50t graphite. Most of all, the price is way lower than lots of big name. The XDB Muso is another 50% off from the Muso. How does it perform? Can it stand up to those big name? May be this is another under radar product by Geotech. Any one know about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Muso is awesome, I only hit one of the shafts and they were out of spec for me but it went really well especially for the price. It's legit and a brand made by Geotech, also ranked very high in the 2014 shaft bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 I dont know anything at all about this shaft. But I do think Geotech is the most under rated brand out there performance wise. Bang for your buck it cant be beaten. I would have no hesitation giving it a go if you like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Chris，Do you know the difference between Muso and Muso XDB? The XDB is only half price of the Muso and is the top selling shaft of Geotech. I don't think the price is the only issue here. Gotta be somethingelse in it. How come I didn't it in the shop? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think the muso is full length 50t and muso xdb is only part 40t for 55 and part 50t and part 90t for the xdb 65. I have a xdb65 fw in r flex and it's not soft at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Hi Duffer， Is the R flex your normal flex? What is your swing speed? Did the shaft work for you? Look at the CPM number. I guess the shaft won't be on the soft side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 I am normally a R flex with premium shafts and R or SR on stock shaft. My swing speed is about 85 to 88 mph or under 40 ms. Don't take all cpm figures at face value. It based on 45" and certain head weight plus the fact that in Japan, it uses a 7 " clamp vs. 5" clamp in most other places. I normally would subtract 10 to 12 cpm from stated figures. The higher the tonnage in a shaft the stiffer a shaft would feel (just from experience), i. e. a 50t full length would feel stiffer than a partial 40t in the same weight class. I am just talking about feel and not necessarily the cpm value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Thanks！Duffer. Yes, you are right. CPM is sometime quite confusing. Only the feel of actual use will count. To sum up, do you think the Muso can stand up to other top-notch shafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Cpm is an good indication of the flex together with weight class short of getting a demo. I already play 3 crazies driver shafts so I don't see a muso in the very near future but love to try one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 I took a deeper look into MUSO shafts yesterday and contacted Geotech about these. The entire selection will be in the proshop early this coming week. The stand out shafts are: MUSO XDB55 - 56-59g 4tq *MUSO XDB65 - 67-72g 3.7-3.8tq MUSO Fairway FW65 - 66-71g 4tq MUSO Fairway FW75 - 76-80g 4tq Kick point is mid on all of these and they suggest 46" as the optimal driver length and 44 or below for fairway woods. All four of these shafts are made using a 4 Axis carbon weave. Each is made using 50T high modulus carbon but the XDB65 has 90T worked into the design. To sum this all up the XDB65 and FW75 are for the stronger player the design is focused on stability and distance and gaining praise for it's ability to square the face up very well. Available in SR,S,X. The XDB55 and FW65 versions are for average players when you select the proper flex. Available in R,SR,S. Everything is made in Japan, Geotech is providing TSG with some valuable information and special options in the future. If you guys have any questions let me know. I haven't hit them yet but have a decent understanding of what they entail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Chris, thanks for the info you have there. If you can come up with more reviews in the future, it would be even sweeter . I wonder why Geotech is not that popular in the forum. They do have some very cool stuffs (not all of them). Like the RF 800, I think is a way beautyful driver than lost of big name and performance is rated very high too. Maybe too many OEM stuffs?? If Geotech has good quality control and helps to bring the price down, hey, why not? Did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Many of TSG's customers are not forum posters and purchase directly from the store. Honma, Yururi, Geotech, RomaRo. These brands sell better than some of the forums most beloved brands. Geotech Quelot is just all around bad ass, the RF800 is a bit firm at impact but just powerful and strong with better distance than most top brands. Geotech wedges are Made in Japan compact and ball shredding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Chris, which shaft is on your RF800? The Hi -cor version looks pretty much the same but look into the spec. table. There are lots of differences. Just not sure what those figures stand for, like SS height, SS length, GD , GL, GA ......etc. How do this numbers make the difference of these two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.haha Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Kick point is mid on all of these and they suggest 46" as the optimal driver length and 44 or below for fairway woods. Seriously Chris 46"?!? do you have any idea how the MUSO XDB65 Stiff will play at 44.5? i wish i could play a 46" driver but i am just not a fan of that playing length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Seriously Chris 46"?!? do you have any idea how the MUSO XDB65 Stiff will play at 44.5? i wish i could play a 46" driver but i am just not a fan of that playing length It would lose a lot of feel that's for sure. Like TRPX imo, if it's played below 45" it loses it's sensation, at 46" it feels as it should. Most shafts played shorter lose feel especially the softer butt end shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.haha Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Chris, so what am i getting here? looking at the shop and the descriptions it looks like the XDB65S. currently playing the messenger S 1st at 45" just to confirm is there a typo here? "The SXB65 is meant for the aggressive/ faster swingers while the XDB55 is more for the average players. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Chris, so what am i getting here? looking at the shop and the descriptions it looks like the XDB65S. currently playing the messenger S 1st at 45" just to confirm is there a typo here? "The SXB65 is meant for the aggressive/ faster swingers while the XDB55 is more for the average players. " Yes sorry that is a Typo, just took actual photos of each shaft and will update product listings shortly. The XDB65 in stiff actually plays a bit firmer than the messenger a bit more accurate and the feel isn't bad at all. I'm not done testing these shafts but so far I'm noticing they play true to flex and are an incredible value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGolf Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 For this price, it's definatly worth giving it a try.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.haha Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 for the price its totally worth it. i just ordered the xdb65S. will report back in a couple weeks! plan to put it in a kamui ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driverhead Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I have been using the XL Muso in a GEOTECH QUELOT driver. Ive been very impressed. It is similar to the GD MT 5/6 in feel. This shaft in a QUELOT is one of the longest combos I have now. The shaft has a great kick but is very stable and consistent. I should have a JBEAM 535 12 degree head coming soon, and will put the XDB shaft in it. Edited July 31, 2014 by driverhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbeaz Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yes. I'm a big fan. Shaft of choice right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Kinda shocked at how many members are liking these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driverhead Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Kinda shocked at how many members are liking these. Quality, PERFORMANCE , and GREAT FEEL works every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driverhead Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) The XDB shaft has been fantastic in the JBEAM 535 head. I am getting great overall performance of distance and accuracy. The XL shaft in the QUELOT LE is probably the longest setup I have for sheer distance. I will probably get another XDB and try it in the RYOMA MAXIMA TYPE V. Edited August 11, 2014 by driverhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.haha Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 im pissed! i still havent been able to try this shaft out and its sitting in my basement! im on the shelf for the next couple weeks because the chef in me decided to almost cut my thumb off. should be ready in a couple weeks but ugh this is my first forced layoff from golf EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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