supo Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 OK so i dont hit the ball very high , i hit it pretty flat it seems and normally with a slight fade bias. so ULTRA low launch shafts for me are not the best sutied as much as i love say NS sp blue or tolerate c-tapers on links , i think im better served elsewhere and prob why i gravitate so earnestly towards the NS range bec. quite simply put , NS genreally tend to go higher. NS said these were made for the btter stirker with input form the pros , if so it wud seem they werent kidding, these things are taught baby..! They have some, hmmmmmmmmmm how to explain it..... maybe like a (semi) good playable feel to them albiet it very high frequency ting feeling and the harder u hit them the better the feleing is (mine are X flex and they cud be better served soft stepped i think ) but ive no real issue with them tbh, ilike them like that. The horrid rod like feel in general of an X flex shaft is semi there but not a bad as others. They are extremely striight shooters. and launch very low for an NS shaft. Ive found them to be uber straight , its extremely dificult to get cute with them and very hard(almst imposibe to snap hook them) they are easily........easily as penetrating as the SP blues but a slightyl nicer feel, as a palcebo i was also hitting a set of NS ST x, on the same day and the differnce was extreme to say the least. ( gimme the ST any day for smooth sailing..!!!!) but they are no where near as tight. miles easier to play, miles nicer to play If i were NS intentions to make shaft comporable to the DG range well they have ABSOLUTELY made a comporable players equivalent, extra weight , tighter arcs,lower flight but without the extra hashness of say the dgs400, x100 or SP blue . Even in a denser forged head they wre tolerable and like say SP blue in ENDO forged heads, id think these wil be MAGIC.. IMO.............. these hsafts are NOT the best sutied to the denser combo, same as SP blues arnt perfeclty matched. but with a softer mizuno, ENDO, yurri kinda guuush feel and these will be im sure a dream match, they wil llower the flight a bit , tightten them up and feel great with soft head. hence why i mthinkng of pulling them and reshafting a set of ENDO heads with them they play brillianllty in blades , but i just gotta get the best suited feel first. think i got a good idea of what to do with them. soft step them into a set of idbls. (think i might have just found my holiday touring set !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankbank Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 thanks for the feedback of the shafts! I was generally thinking of these in my next build (for P2's). Was thinking of these, the Modus 3 120, Shimada Tour or Tour Lite (to the extreme maybe a Design Tuning X100). I used to have the 1150GH for Epon 301's, and found that the flight was nice, but distance was a bit lacking. Also, the shaft felt taut to me (different from some other peoples' opinions i found). Do you find the heavy weight of the 125 an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb2235 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I hit these today and Stew is dead nuts on as usual especially his comparison to the DG shafts. Thanks for the review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) stew, i think these would be terrific in a set of idbl's. i'm playing an S flex set in p2's and while i haven't had a ton of course or even range time with them, they proven to be a great combo early on -- soft dense-isn heads make these an addicting feel! what i like about them the most is the nice high arc (not too high tho), straight but workable ball flight, soft landing and predictable roll-out on greens....with a good set of heads, these could be very formidable pin seekers. Edited April 20, 2015 by needmoregolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 yea they are a good set and that macth shud be a good set. they are in the agrind blades and they are a very serious set of bats i cant have a bad day with them so i think i cud make use better on them in a softer head and put a smoother set in the a-grinds to make them a bit friendlier. this combo asks as many questions of my swing as any club ive ever hit. i can do with just a bit more forgivenes..! i find the weight of them, ok, coming off 130s its not such a big thing , its the stifffness that is the key here. they are WAY tighter than the 130s. these are prob the most pro esque shaft ive hit. a lot more so than the 120x. of the dgx100 its about finding the right balance, and soft stping them is prob a great idea bec they really are a tuff ask in X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Perez Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Awesome info guys! I have a set of the system 3 125s going into j15 CB's. Excited to see how they feel and perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 that id imagine wont be a bad mix at all. mine are pulled form the a-grinds now, just taking some time to work out where best to put them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 hmmm what to get what to get. 125 vs 130? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Perez Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I had the 125s installed, ran right to the range to hit them. They are about 1/2 club longer then the x100 installed prior. Feel better weight wise, and have a unique feel to them vs x100 or 120s. Slightly taut but crisp feeling thru ball. Went to the course for 36 holes yesterday, and these shafts are AMAZING! Long irons have a beautiful mid penetrating trajectory, and the short irons throw straight darts! With the forged j15 cb heads, this shaft combo is perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) shafted a honma tw717m , 7 iron. and took other 7i with DG s200 as a placebo. hit them head ot head on the par 3s. many many times well surprise or surprises, the NS is harder stiffer striaghter tinnngier. the dgs200 is softer, gushier, easier to move around,lower. distance goes to the NS when i really mashed into a cpl of fariway shots the DG was a bit bendier, the NS stayed like an arrow, for us amateur choppers this meant it prob was a cpl of yards infront . damn this NS thing is a stiff beast. forget NS now being a soft option, this shaft means business. i doubt many peops will love this , the heads on these are terrifc , soft but dense, this was an interesting feel, nothing like i was expectiing. remininded me of shimada tour 125 X.. very similar. these ask a lot of questions. took me by surprsie figuered they wud be a bit softer.................., nup. these are going to play on links very , very soon. . the last par 3 was 198 yards i took both 7 irons with 5 shots each to absolutely give it to the ball. i wanted to see how short they landed. how they went with a 100% basbeall grip draw swing kapooooooooow the DG was lovely but a bit soft. . nice little arc. low . piercing . arc. i cud aim just right of the target and it came back over the bunker to the catchment area before the green edge. pertty perfect to be honest. cudnt really ask for mre thruth be told. the feel was nice on good shots but typicall bit gunnnnnnnnnnngggg...., raspy on miss**ts. the NS however........... were 3 arrow straight pulls and 2 all timers. it was unreal. i hit the tree ,( twice! ) and the bunker once. then re aimed and got 2 balls dead centre dead straight , not 1mm did it menader left nor right. hmmmmm, right,,,, this is what they can do. both of thse wre 3-5 yards longer than the bst DG. that brought a wry smile. dont get cute . aim straigt, hit into it results will come. i think they will grow on me. they are nothing what so ever like either the 120s or 130s. nothing at all i dont even consider these in that same genre i think........, me likey...!!! Edited June 29, 2015 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxxx Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 In what way are they different to the 120s please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 way stiffer, taugher. more aggressive, the 120s are really smooth and easy to hit by prety much anyone . these are not. any epon head with these wud be an aboslute winner id think. the 120s and epon heads get a bit touchy feely ,lost at times. this might add some spice. thin these go lower than the 120s. and less of an arc. think tight, think taught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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