Daveraul Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Got a used Epon Zen just before the weekend and the excitement could hardly be contained. Putted at home for about 30 mins trying to get used to the heavier weight/speed control and I must say I am hooked. (Was using an IPT Yamada Milled Tx-001 that I got from another TSGer a while ago) Softness of the impact is sublime (almost silent) likely due to the deep milling of the Zen. I guess it is called "Zen" for a reason. Roll is true and so so smooth. Gamed it for the weekend round and although still trying to adjust to it, calling it perfect is very much an understatement. Pictures to follow soon. Now that the Epon Zen is in the bag, time to consider sending some existing putters to GF for customization!! Muahahaha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 The Zen is the last putter I will ever use and I honestly believe that. I used to use the old 8802 Wilson and putted very well with that and then went on a mix of different Anser type putters back when G-Field was all the rage. However when the Zen came out, I just had to have it. And I found I've never putter better with any other putter. Its the entire package, the feel, the look, weight, you name it. Its everything its name implies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 i had a zen, sold it and regretted it. i acquired one again and changed the shaft to another one and ruined feel. I'm putting back the original shaft and hope to get back the old magic. warning: do not tamper with your zen. at most change the grip thats it!! you don't want to mess around with the zen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveraul Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 i had a zen, sold it and regretted it. i acquired one again and changed the shaft to another one and ruined feel. I'm putting back the original shaft and hope to get back the old magic. warning: do not tamper with your zen. at most change the grip thats it!! you don't want to mess around with the zen Yes absolutely.. Was considering changing the shaft whilst waiting for it to arrive but after doing some research, decided against it. (Was thinking about the UST FF Shaft but the feel I got from gaming it over the weekend stopped me) But will most likely be changing the grip to a Gripmaster Cabretta Stitchback.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 what about putter length? mine seems to play long over 35" but it's got a superstroke on it so obviously not stock. but wondering if there was an ideal length on these as the i33's I've seen all were 34" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveraul Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 what about putter length? mine seems to play long over 35" but it's got a superstroke on it so obviously not stock. but wondering if there was an ideal length on these as the i33's I've seen all were 34" I've got mine cut to 33" from slightly longer than 34" but it had the original grip on so I'd assume the shaft is original. (At least that's what the seller said) - I'm rather short, so the "long" shaft didn't work that well for me as I was gripping/standing too high and felt uncomfortable. One thing that I'm slightly disappointed is that he lost the original headcover during a round (we prob have all lost a headcover or 2 during a round) but provided a Epon Shin Headcover instead. Gonna bring it to a S.A.M Puttlab session for full analysis soon. But the looks and feel of it just give so much confidence that I'm gonna make every single putt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 stock is 34" i had the best combo when i was gaming it with carbretta stitch back in cognac color! miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lousifers Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I changed to the same Shimada shaft but black one and cut it 0.5" (Chris helped me by asking Gold Factory ship this shaft to me). Also, changed the grip to leather Gripmaster and even added a few grams of rubber under the grip to do somewhat counter balance and get the SW I want So far so good. I feel all Zen magic but even better as it's now at my preferred SW. To me, "a little tweak" would be just fine. More than that, you'll lose Zen magic totally. I've changed tens of drivers, irons, and wedges over last 2 years but never bought any new putter since the ZEN. Not becoz it's exclusive or my ego, etc but the Zen is just that damn good Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveraul Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I changed to the same Shimada shaft but black one and cut it 0.5" (Chris helped me by asking Gold Factory ship this shaft to me). Also, changed the grip to leather Gripmaster and even added a few grams of rubber under the grip to do somewhat counter balance and get the SW I want So far so good. I feel all Zen magic but even better as it's now at my preferred SW. To me, "a little tweak" would be just fine. More than that, you'll lose Zen magic totally. I've changed tens of drivers, irons, and wedges over last 2 years but never bought any new putter since the ZEN. Not becoz it's exclusive or my ego, etc but the Zen is just that damn good Mark Thanks for the comments, Mark.. Ordered the Cabretta Stitchback but just itching to game it as soon as possible.. Going for another round with a client tomorrow (Just can't wait till the weekend and found an excuse to play midweek golf.. Hahaha...) Gonna take some pictures during the round to post here.. On a similar note, still in the search for the unicorn driver and wood.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lousifers Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Before the end of this month, I "might" accomplish finding unicorn driver and FW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Before the end of this month, I "might" accomplish finding unicorn driver and FW Ha! Il wager my unicorns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLL33 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I play the Zen with UST-ff shaft and love it. I use the baseball mitt leather grip from BestGrips and have never liked a leather grip more. It stays tacky and keeps getting softer -- just like an old favorite baseball mitt. But I have to say -- and I know this will sound strange -- the Ryoma P3 putter has been in my bag all this year so far. It's the most unusual soft feel I've ever come across in an Anser-type head, truly unique, and something about it seems to be perfection for me on the very fast greens of my home course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I play the Zen with UST-ff shaft and love it. I use the baseball mitt leather grip from BestGrips and have never liked a leather grip more. It stays tacky and keeps getting softer -- just like an old favorite baseball mitt. But I have to say -- and I know this will sound strange -- the Ryoma P3 putter has been in my bag all this year so far. It's the most unusual soft feel I've ever come across in an Anser-type head, truly unique, and something about it seems to be perfection for me on the very fast greens of my home course. I had the ryoma mallet. Too too soft I lost distance control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLL33 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I know, the P3 is totally unusual, it seems to want to answer the question, how soft is too soft? But for those always on the hunt for that answer -- as I have been since I first put a putter in hand -- I simply think there is nothing else quite like it. And for that reason alone, it has to be experienced by those looking for "soft." Chris has pointed out -- rightly, I think -- that those playing on faster greens seem to like it more. Count me in. But hey, I'm glad I ended up with that first Zen of yours, C... <g> I treasure it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk24bk Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 So who in the forum is going to sell me a Zen? Come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akapur Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 The Zen is a great putter. It isn't for everyone, those that have trouble with their stroke find the Zen difficult to make putts with. I am back to using it this year and am finding the speed control to be perfect. I have it shafted with a Quadra Fire express Putter shaft, and the balance is ideal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveraul Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 So who in the forum is going to sell me a Zen? Come on! Well.. It took me quite a long time to get hold of one.. It pops up very very occasionally on TSG but I'm usually too slow to act.. Good luck with ur hunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Following this thread and chuckling at how many people feel this way about the Zen. I had my Cabretta Stitchback waiting for it before it arrived and that set up hasn't left my sight since. Only putter to give me any feeling on the same level as the Zen is one of Stew's custom putted from Masda! Edited May 4, 2015 by chiromikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 doesn't someone who loves 8802 style putters want my betti 3-slot dass?? ok, sorry for the momentary thread jack, back to the awesomeness of the zen ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I know, the P3 is totally unusual, it seems to want to answer the question, how soft is too soft? But for those always on the hunt for that answer -- as I have been since I first put a putter in hand -- I simply think there is nothing else quite like it. And for that reason alone, it has to be experienced by those looking for "soft." Chris has pointed out -- rightly, I think -- that those playing on faster greens seem to like it more. Count me in. But hey, I'm glad I ended up with that first Zen of yours, C... <g> I treasure it, too. so that ended up with you! glad to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 The Zen is without a doubt a defining moment in putter design. When my eyesight fails me and viagra has fixed a firm place in the pill cabinet.....And all golf clubs are made from unobtanium. Simple... The head will become the handle of my walking stick and the shaft replaced by a nice whittled piece of oak. This thing will outlast me for sure. Its a keeper ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 haha great idea, never thought of that but would make a sweet cane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 It would almost deserve a forged blade inside the cane D mmm May have to look at some cravats and a nice velvet evening gown. Would defo be a cane for a cad....he says twisting his moostash....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Commission Endo to forge you a sweet thin blade then have Golds weld it to the head. Now you just gotta find the right piece of wood to sheath it. I'd grow a long moostash just to be able to rock this with you... muwahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 haha....good stuff. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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