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Titleist 716 T MB Stainless Steel ????


robbie

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I read on a forum thread that these were stainless steel and that adjustments would be tough.....Negatory to both, they move pretty easily and are not stainless steel.

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First I hear of such thing.... why would stainless be hard to adjust lie?? Only cast are difficult due to the fear of breaking but defiantly not anything forged?

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They are cast.

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And stainless

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Wether that makes them hard to bend I don't know, I think you can make cast heads pretty malleable depending on heat treatment? Anyway it's a bit telling they offer so much customisation for loft/lie straight from the factory, this points to Titleist thinking bending should only be done by them?

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well a magnet definitely sticks to them on both the sole and face and rear cavity, so i doubt they are stainless !!!!

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well a magnet definitely sticks to them on both the sole and face and rear cavity, so i doubt they are stainless !!!!

It depends on the specific component make-up of the stainless steel.. Not all Stainless Steel are non-magnetic..

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Copied and pasted from titleist.co.jp:

Head material : Stainless steel (body),

tungsten weight (inner weight)

Head recipe : Casting

Head finish : The satin finish, charcoal PVD (sole)

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I was under the impression that stainless steel was as non magnetic as they come....although stainless can be slightly magnetic....the titleist heads attract magnets as strong as normal metal, in fact it behaves just as normal metal does.....perhaps there is stainless steel somewhere in the head, but it fails the magnet test horribly. This head is definitely not stainless like the SUS.

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Maybe the tungsten sole and plugs are not "pure" tungsten but an alloy making the whole head rather magnetic? It is a multi-material head after all, a lot of it isn't stainless. body stainless, "innards" and sole tungsten alloy

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This might be it;

"Is Tungsten Carbide magnetic?

Tungsten carbide products are often made from tungsten carbide powder cemented with another metal. This metal is often cobalt or nickel which is magnetic. 6% cobalt by weight is a typical percentage. Cobalt cemented tungsten carbide is magnetic enough to be picked up with a strong magnet. Tungsten carbide by itself would have very low to no ferromagnetic properties."

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That is a lot of metallurgy going on there....haha....all i know is the 716mb bends like normal irons do and the face and sole and rear attract a magnet strongly and the face body and sole of the Epon SUS do not......

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Got me searching, ha ha. Look att this, the T-MBs are probably "ferritic" stainless?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-dont-magnets-work-on/

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There are types of SS that are magnetic see chart below

Details on the Five Classes of Stainless Steel Class Non/Magnetic Crystal Structure Common Examples
Ferritic Magnetic BCC 405, 430, 442
Austenitic Nonmagnetic FCC 201, 301, 302, 303, 304, 316
Martensitic Magnetic BCT 403, 410, 416
Duplex Magnetic Combination 2205, Alloy 255 Precipitate-Hardened Magnetic Combination 17-4PH, PH 17-7
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We have sold many many of these and so far 2 heads have snapped with minimal bending, heads not sets.

I've bent cast, stainless, and of course forged sometimes you can make it happen with no issue other times they just break.

I suggest ordering the bend from the factory to avoid these issues.

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We have sold many many of these and so far 2 heads have snapped with minimal bending, heads not sets.

I've bent cast, stainless, and of course forged sometimes you can make it happen with no issue other times they just break.

I suggest ordering the bend from the factory to avoid these issues.

I agree !!!

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You bent them Robbie? No issues?

I checked the lies and loft and moved one iron by almost one degree weaker and one of the irons was moved about half a degree flatter.....not actual bending but more like minor tapping...but it moved very easily....to move a PING iron a degree takes a serious amount of effort.....i didn't move these a great deal, so I'm not sure what to expect outside of 1 degree of movement. In fact since the irons were slightly off, i just moved them back to their original position

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I checked the lies and loft and moved one iron by almost one degree weaker and one of the irons was moved about half a degree flatter.....not actual bending but more like minor tapping...but it moved very easily....to move a PING iron a degree takes a serious amount of effort.....i didn't move these a great deal, so I'm not sure what to expect outside of 1 degree of movement. In fact since the irons were slightly off, i just moved them back to their original position

Cool well if you do decide to check again later I'm curious how it changes after X amount of rounds

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