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I'm loving the look of the 460. I found info elsewhere that it comes in Pro and HighRally models? Also that the loft and face angle can be ordered to the 0.25*. Very cool.

Picked up an R5 XL 9.5 stiff yesterday. Pleasing look and sound- I'll put it one up on the R5 TP in both categories. Fractionally closed like the R5 TP as well. Ballflight was VERY high with the stock shaft. I think I'm a little too lazy to mess with it at the moment- so will be returning it shortly. Less pancaked at address than the R7 460 and less tinny.

The R5 XL are now available at d**k's sportinggoods- for those that may not know. Look interesting really...

To me, the Leap is an artful piece of putting machinery. The itch has been scratched- I'll let you boys know how it performs. :tsg_smilie_money3:

Looks great. I'd be a little worried it will look like chiat on the sole after a few practice swings. Durability?

I picked up a 33" NC Milled 5 due to the increased headweight. It's 340g vs 330 in the 34 and 35". Quality is outstanding, feel superb, and alignment a snatch. Excellent putter. TGW has great address pictures of all models in the product tour section. I chose the 5 as the 1 just had too much shaft offset- the 5 is perfect. Blows away any Cameron I have owned. Cheers

47 Pitch, 21 3 iron.

Last time he wheeled out the D it did him no favours- a tried and failed experiment. If he's gonna be in the rough he might as well have lob wedge in rather than 7 iron. On topic- I would venture to say Titleist does have large drivers and explores the curve with the Cobra line. Remember, the plasma welds were first used in the Cobra line and trickled "up" to Titleist. Cobra is somewhat of a testing ground before new technology is incorporated into the Titleist drivers. Cheers

Let me preface this by pointing out I currently wear a Titan wristband and Phiten necklace. Came across a write-up giving a very plausible explanation for the increased strength phenomena. A worthwile read. http://www.randi.org/jr/062504interesting.html FIGHTIN' OVER PHITEN Reader Gary Heayes, in Tokyo, Japan, informs us of the latest in nonsense on those shores: I thought I'd drop you a line about a "new" quack product being marketed widely in Japan right now. The scientific marvel in question is the Phiten necklace. It is a fabric-covered PVC rubber cord that apparently contains powdered titanium. The purported effects of wearing the necklace are increased energy, better blood flow, reduced muscle pain, and supple joints. The product is advertised on national TV, and the company runs a large number of stores selling the necklaces and titanium impregnated underwear, t-shirts, gels, creams and plasters. Many famous Japanese sports persons, including the entire Japanese Olympic volleyball team, wear the products. It's also being endorsed by major sports personalities (eg Randy Johnson) in the US. The US website is www.phitenusa.com/index.asp. The necklaces sell for about $40. The Phiten stores use an interesting "test" to convince potential buyers. In an idle moment I went into one of the shops and let the staff demonstrate the miracle to me. They have a brown paper carrier bag that contains a brick shaped object wrapped up in newspaper and tape. They ask you to stand, extend your arm and lift the bag from a chair. You then put the bag down, and they drape the necklace across your arm and ask you to lift the bag again. It's supposed to be easier with the necklace on your body. Three of my Japanese work colleagues were so impressed by this that they bought the necklaces and eagerly repeated the demonstration around the office. Randi comments: This is the old "Applied Kinesiology" scam, for which Gary has a rather good explanation: I have an idea why this "test" might appear to work. When a person tries to pick up an object the brain makes a rough guess as to how much strength it's going to require. With an unknown object wrapped in paper, we have no idea how much it's going to weigh. The Phiten brick is actually quite heavy, and most people are likely to underestimate the effort required. The test with the necklace draped over the arm is always the second attempt, by which time our brain has recalculated and knows exactly how much effort is required. Hence it seems much easier to lift. I also let the Phiten staff smear "titanium" gel on my neck and shoulders since I had bad neck pain that day. The shop assistant was rather startled when I reported that the pain hadn't instantly gone away. She stuck some titanium stickers on me and told me to give it more time. Well, that didn't work either. The whole thing is just a modern reworking of the familiar magnetism quackery, which incidentally also has a large following here in Japan. Interestingly, a chain of discount stores is now selling a knockoff non-branded rubber necklace that contains not only titanium but also powdered tourmaline (Why? For the negative ions, of course!) at 100 yen (about 90 cents). Just goes to show what the markup on Phiten necklaces must be. Thanks for all your valuable work and your fascinating website. It's good to know there are people out there battling the forces of ignorance and hogwash. The apparent success of "Applied Kinesiology" goes further than this, however. When I get the time, I'll tell you about my first encounter with this nonsense, back in New Jersey, about 1973�. Junk science abounds on the Phiten website. For example: Phiten proprietary technology, PTi (patent pending), results in an aqueous solution of titanium that is considered insoluble in water. Our most popular series of products employ fibers deeply impregnated with aqueous titanium solution to help relax your muscles. A lie, plain and simple. Titanium is a very hard, corrosion-resistant, silvery metal, atomic number 22, insoluble in water — no matter what these idiots claim. Oh, but don't doubt that they'll get a patent on their "proprietary technology." It doesn't have to actually work, to get a patent; it just has to sound good to the clerks at the US Patent and Trademark Office.

So given the current tour/retail debate- wouldn't this thread be more appropriate in the domestic section?

Noticed the new putter as well. Does the VT have 3 lines on the top? Webb's putter had 3 lines- the center being longer than the heel and toe.

Could be the distortion of blowing up the picture, but that sure looks like it could be a carbon fiber crown.

Honestly- I have been dreaming about these pictures. Bit the bullet today and ordered a stock finish set. Really though, in this black finish this is the sexiest set of irons I have ever seen. Cheers to you guys that pony up and spend the extra for the black finish. I am jealous...