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How the heck do you keep the sugar from flowing out of the shaft ? I know you can tape the butt end of the shaft but sugar will sooner or later find its way thorugh the tape ? FYI I also have a very nice Betti from TKSputter.com - a BB8 Tour DASS SilverPearl with 355 gram head weight - and I love it I consider shipping it to Tom Slighter for a 3 X black refinish, because I like black putters but also stainless steel putters.

If you used to play Mizuno Mp-14 blades, I would certainly opt for either Mp-32 or Mp-60. And I don't see Miura's on your list - they are in my view the best forged irons when it comes to a proper combination of club head design, loft, bounce, brand recognition and quality of forgings (Spin welded will not come out of loft and lie as easily, while they to me still feels as great as the Mizuno forgings - please note that I own two Mizuno iron sets and two Miura iron sets, so I have actual proof of my allegation, as subjective this allegation might me) I would most certainly also consider these: Miura Giken Cb-1006 Miura Cb-201 Miura Cb-301 - in my view the best looking players cavity back ever made. Resembles the Macgregor PCB Tour Miura forged irons sets from 1999. Offset looks like ZERO, topline very thin, as soft feeling as my Mizuno Mp-32 set and still more forgiving. Other favorites on your hitlist must be: Epon Type J, Fourteen TC770 Forged (though with a bit too fat topline and slightly too much offset in my view) and Tourstage X Cb 2.

I can answer the "blue" questio for you, I think The 14 TC770 Forged have more offset and a thicker sole compared to the Epon Type J - therefore the Epon Type J looks better from the address position. Conversely the 14 TC770 Forged has a better looking cavity design compared to the Epon Type J - so it's really a subjective decision which one you will think is the best looker. Based entirely on specifications, I would assume the 14 TC770 Forged would play a tiny bit more forgiving compared to the Epon Type J iron. Both are forged by Endo, and should be Endo's supreme forgings - so you can't go wrong with either iron set. The Fourteen brand is a bit more known in the US, but still only club HO's will know what Fourteen is. Epon is even lesser known in the US - so only the most serious club HO's will know what Epon is. I still think its' shame that Endo didn't chose their own name as a brand instead of using the Epon brand name - but that's just me Endo would sell a lot more clubs if they had their own name on the clubs instead of the Epon brand name.

Chris I've PM'ed you about these wedges. Could you possible bend the 58 to a 60 ? Will the grooves be like the old 588 Tour Satin Chrome model, which had pretty sharp grooves ?

How much shallower will the face be in the X driver GR ? I love deep faced driver heads - and hate too shallow faced driver heads.......so should I go for traditional X driver or the upcoming one ? My SS is 112 Mph with the driver.....my normal distance with the driver is 260-265 carry and 280-285 with roll.

OT Who is the girl in your avatar - she looks cute

Not sure, but I think Chris once said that all Mizuno stuff are made in Japan - no matter where it is being sold in the world - so my guess is there will be no difference in the material used and the quality of the two products.

What is this project TSG X.........please I wanna KNOW now

I have a Bettinardi BB8 Tour DASS originally in SilverPearl Stainless Steel, but customised by Tom Slighter with a 3Xblack finish. It's never been used - I will get it from Tom Slighter in 2 weeks, and if you will pay the right price, it's yours. PM me if your interested - remember, this is a tour putter and not available retail - so the price is HIGH.........I paid $2k for it myself and $150 to Tom Slighter for the 3Xblack paint job on the putter. It's milled double aged stainless steel with black finish - 355 gram head and 35" shaft. Original brand new yellow Bettinardi Winn grip. Forgot - it has 3 sound slots of course..........this is from Bettinardi and not from an OEM like Hogan or Mizuno. Purchased at TKsputters.com.

Any chance of a set 52/56/60 Too bad I don't play 52/58 combo

So far no wedge has been able to give me the same feel of the Vokey's satin finish cast carbon steel. I've tried Miuzno, Miura, Tourstage, Cleveland, Callway, Taylor Made and Bridgestone wedges. My Vokey's are still - in my view - superior in feel, head design and different lofts and lie combinations. In fact the Mizuno forged wedges 1020 carbon steel in black nickel felt harder than my cast Vokes....go figure that out I intend to order a set of the Oil Can Vokey's spin milled and have them special M grinded by Joe Kwok. This way I'll get the best wedge in the business, in my view.

Cast carbon steel: Titleist Vokey - nobody beats it. Bob Vokey is the greatest wedge maker in the world. I've tried a lot of forged carbon steel wedges (Tourstage 2005 model, Miura and Mizuno Mp-T) and to me Vokey's are second to none. Forged carbon steel: Tourstage X-wedge 2007 (I'm tempted to buy a trio of these from Chris.....very tempted if it was not for the......), Callaway X-Tour (forged 1020 carbon steel and made by second greatest wedge designer in the world: Roger Cleveland), Mizuno Custom Made Mp-R, Miura Forged, Scratch Forged and Epon Forged - you can't go wrong with either of these wedges.

The look sweet - do they come in satin finish ?

Driver, 3 wood and hybrid: Lamkin Crossline Full cord Midsize Irons: Lamkin Crossline NON cord Midsize Wedges: Iomic X grip Midsize Blue Putter: Iomic Medium Yellow Reason: I like a firm feel in the grip when swinging my longer shafted clubs, driver and woods - hence a Crossline fullcord grip gives me extra good grip. I like a more soft feel in my irons, but not too soft - hence Crossline NON cord. I rarely take a full shot with any of my wedges, I prefer a 3/4 pitch and chip - hence I prefer a very soft grip in my wedges. The Iomic X grips provides me with this soft feel.

Holy crap Is G_Field and Gauge design bankrupt Since when - you got to tell me more about this, Chris

May I ask what has happened to Gauge Design and G Field clubs on this site ? You can't seem to buy them here anymore ??

Great post, Chris OT warning ! I see you currently play with the Mizzie E500 irons - how are they, are they soft feeling and don't they have a bit too much offset ? They seem a bit bulky to me, compared to Epon type J and X you previously played with... What about the Mizzie E500 460cc driver, I'm looking forward to a test up against the Epon 460 Technity and the Tourstage X drive 460 drivers.......will you test it soon ?

If you want control in your hybrid, I persoanally would advice you to skip graphite shafts in your hybrids, and go with a quality steel shaft that will give you the launch angle you seek for. If you however want a graphite shaft in your hybrid, I would consider getting a heavy graphite shaft that will provide you with a lower trajectory and resemble the characteristics of a steel shaft. If you want a JDM hybrid, I would consider the G Field Utility club - with a heavy graphite shaft or a steel shaft for better and lower trajectory control. Unfortunately you can't buy the G Field Utility club here on TSG anymore (don't know why that is) but try some of the other JDM vendors if you want this one. I really must say that I find the range of hybrid clubs in the TSG shop pretty narrow - we need some more hybrid clubs to choose from Chris

What I tried to explain was that in this forum, JDM gear is regarded as being superior to golf gear manufactured and produced in China. I didn't say that China can't make excellent golf gear. I know they can, because I love my China produced Titleist and Taylor Made golf gear The tendency however is that the golf gear made in Japan seems to be of slightly higher quality and better and softer forgings - especially when it comes to irons and wedges. Endo is probably the best and most advanced club maker in the world right now when it comes to making drivers, woods and hybrids - and I know a lot of Endo's products are made and assembled in Thailand and China. I have a lot of respect for this brand, so not trying to diss on products made in these countries.

You got that wrong. I said that in here JDM gear is regarded as the best quality gear. Golf gear produced in China is a NO NO - I said that with a smile (should have used a smiley for it, sorry). If you read the posts in here, you will pretty fast spot that the Japan forged and produced gear in general is considered a class higher than golf gear made in China, Taiwan and even Thailand. But as with all in this world, there are exceptions to the rule. Endo forges a lot of their products in Thailand and some of the major iron manufacturers forger their products in Japan while assembling them in Taiwan or China. BUT as a general rule - JDM gear is considered "the top of the pops" and stuff made in China is considered being of less superior quality. Notice that I said AS A GENERAL RULE ! Of course China is perfectly capable of making great golf gear, in fact most of the US brands are made and assembled in China. The stuff from Japan just seem to be made with higher quality requirements. With that in mind, I can't say that I don't like Titleist & TaylorMade gear - I only tried to explain why the original poster most likely was in search for a Japan manufactured 3 wood and not one made in either China, Thailand nor Taiwan.

This is a forum for lovers of JDM gear, that's probably why Tour Edge Exotic might be from USA, but it is produced in China, and in here China is a NO NO land when it comes to producing high quality golf gear - JAPAN RULEZZZZ

Hey Rangship, I'm sorry for your loss of JDM gear Did your car also got stolen - I guess it must have been an expensive one, since the thieves sought out the 3 most expensive looking cars in the car park...ouchhhh.....I hate it when this happens to someone

Will Epon release a succesor to the 460 Technity soon - maybe with a design that looks more like their new 2007 fariway wood ? Does all the Epon driver heads and fairway wood heads sits square or closed at address ?

You said it first - and you're SOOO right

You know what I mean, Chris. Besides that, some Nike and Callaway drivers are made in Thailand by Endo (you said so yourself - so not everything is from China and as you also have mentioned, not everything from China is made with poor quality control) You can have US brand tour drivers for the price of JDM drivers and the US tour drivers can be fitted to your exact likings - loft, lie, internal weighting etc. The tour drivers are not on the shelfs, like the JDM drivers are in Japan and I do agree that JDM drivers have advanced shaft options - BUT the trend in the US market is going in the same direction now. Again one can argue, that the JDM market started the trend with exotic shaft options and now 2-3 years later, we see the same trend in the US market. I agree that the JDM drivers are more innovative with regards to both design and use of high tech materials - but not something that a US tour driver, made in China, can't accommodate regarding the ball speed and smashfactor. As I said the forgiveness factor is one area where the JDM drivers prevails. Forgiveness is a must for everybody, but especially for the mid to high cappers - and this is the group of people that will benefit most from the advanced forgiving hot JDM drivers.