jt916 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I play Miz MP32, DS300 SL SST Pured steel shaft, for a few years now with HCP of 7. the age factor finally caught up to me and it is such a hard time keeping up with my 20's sons. No I don't want to hit farther than they are but I need to minimize the damage of my miss hit (I think it is the eye sights :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: ). I love the Miz MP32 accuracy and feel but hate the penalty when miss hit. I think it is time for a forgiven irons. It is time for a new set of irons and want to hear some of your suggestion in here. thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I play Miz MP32, DS300 SL SST Pured steel shaft, for a few years now with HCP of 7. the age factor finally caught up to me and it is such a hard time keeping up with my 20's sons. No I don't want to hit farther than they are but I need to minimize the damage of my miss hit (I think it is the eye sights :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: ). I love the Miz MP32 accuracy and feel but hate the penalty when miss hit. I think it is time for a forgiven irons.It is time for a new set of irons and want to hear some of your suggestion in here. thanks guys. Type J or the Type J, I also suggest the Type J :tsg_smiley_yes: Here is my reason: 1. Head weights are a tad heavier 2. Its ENDO's best forging 3. tolorence is .25 where other brands is +/- 1 degree 4. Quality control is at a tour issue level 5. Shaft options are vast 6. they perform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8thehardway Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I play Miz MP32, DS300 SL SST Pured steel shaft, for a few years now with HCP of 7. the age factor finally caught up to me and it is such a hard time keeping up with my 20's sons. No I don't want to hit farther than they are but I need to minimize the damage of my miss hit (I think it is the eye sights :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: ). I love the Miz MP32 accuracy and feel but hate the penalty when miss hit. I think it is time for a forgiven irons.It is time for a new set of irons and want to hear some of your suggestion in here. thanks guys. I'm sort of in the same place and liked the Callaway x-tours and KZG's PC-IIIs, both of which have almost no penalties for mis**ts. I'm debating whether to switch because they do not feel responsive - just programmed for high and straight - but I may end up forgoing feel for score. Per recent posts, my first choice would be the Epon Technicity irons that someoe thought seemed similar to the X-tours but I'd ask Chris for his thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornyjuan Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 X-tours are nothing compared to the latest offerings. First off the heads are WAY too heavy. As far as the forgiveness factor, you'll soon forget how forgiving the clubs are once you start hitting the club. Don't get me wrong, I bought a set of x-tours, but when I compare them to my R7 limiteds, Matsumotos, GD, Mizzys, it's just a completely different feel...like going from hitting butter to thwacking the ball with a wood board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkman53 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 This is not a direct response, but may prove useful in extrapolating my experience to your situation. I recently replaced MP60's with Epon Technica Pro II's, and have been delighted with the increased forgiveness without giving up the slightest amount of accuracy. If anything, I'm more accurate for distance and direction. The analogous club in the Epon line for the MP32 would be the Type J, and the Pro II is a bit more toward increased forgiveness (analogous to the MP 60). I haven't played the Type J for comparison, but Chris has, and prefers it. My index is 10, for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramizuno13 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I play Miz MP32, DS300 SL SST Pured steel shaft, for a few years now with HCP of 7. the age factor finally caught up to me and it is such a hard time keeping up with my 20's sons. No I don't want to hit farther than they are but I need to minimize the damage of my miss hit (I think it is the eye sights :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: ). I love the Miz MP32 accuracy and feel but hate the penalty when miss hit. I think it is time for a forgiven irons.It is time for a new set of irons and want to hear some of your suggestion in here. thanks guys. Have a serious look at the MP-60's. Same great feel as the 32's, but more forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i just got my epon types js in and have played one round thus far. i am preparing to do a review after i play a few rounds so as i get an overall feel for the clubs first! but based on todays performance i would have to say that these kick the mp32s ass....the feel so much more pure. they are the best combo out of hundreds of forgings i have tried........great combination on weight, softness, reponsiveness and crispness. Personally now that i have the new type js i would never look at the 32s again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramizuno13 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i just got my epon types js in and have played one round thus far. i am preparing to do a review after i play a few rounds so as i get an overall feel for the clubs first! but based on todays performance i would have to say that these kick the mp32s ass....the feel so much more pure. they are the best combo out of hundreds of forgings i have tried........great combination on weight, softness, reponsiveness and crispness. Personally now that i have the new type js i would never look at the 32s again. I will agree with except with price. Not everyone that comes on this site can afford Epon. They could arguably be the most expensive clubs to come out of Japan in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8thehardway Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I will agree with except with price. Not everyone that comes on this site can afford Epon. They could arguably be the most expensive clubs to come out of Japan in a long time. I agree that price can be a huge factor, especially since there's no opportunity to demo the Epons or compare them to domestic sets to see if the softness and quality is worth the extra bucks. The X-tours felt fine to me even though I play forged and they'd probably feel about the same as any iron in the MP line. For more feel combined with forgiveness KZG's 'double forged' irons may be worth a try. Then again, I found the MP-32s too demanding so my suggestions may be overly biased toward forgiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 The MP-32s are great clubs. i loved them in the mid to short irons yet not so much in the long irons. Remeber this guys, Handicap measures how low of a score you shoot not how good of a ball striker you are. KZG used to use kyoei and they felt great, they then switched it up and are using a chinese company now and still feels decent. What i have learned over the years is that some people can feel or hear the difference while others cant. Price is IMO the biggest factor for the majority of golfers, people who can afford it really dont understand that. I just spoke to the post man today, he said he wanted to purchase the best quality irons in the world but could spend no more than 400 bucks, I then had a flashback to when i needed to save up for a month to buy the then new Callaway X-12 irons. Its not easy laying down the $$$ if ya really cant afford it. If ya can then its a whole different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8thehardway Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Remeber this guys, Handicap measures how low of a score you shoot not how good of a ball striker you are. Ain't that the truth! I shot 87 today and it could have been 97 if not for taking only 25 putts with that ProDivision Forged L (thanks, Chris). Couldn't hit an iron, wood or hybrid but the score only showed how many, not how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkman53 Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 (edited) As far as price is concerned, there's no question that the Epon clubs are up there. But since I've gotten used to them, I've been on fire in the scoring department. I have two rounds within the last week where I had scores of 78, and I'm a 10 index (but won't be there for long at this rate). The ProII's with the Nippon 1150's are the most accurate irons I've ever played, and feel great, too. I could never get consistent distances with my MP60/Tour Concept setup for some reason. In the last several months, I've gotten Mizuno MP UX 2 hybrids, Gauge Design wedges, the Epon 460/Axiv driver, and the Epon Pro II's from Chris, and I've never had more confidence in my game. The only things in my bag that aren't from Chris are my Tour Edge Exotics/757 3 and 5 woods, and my Heavy Putter. Each purchase I've made from Chris has been an improvement over anything I've ever played before for that club or set of clubs. Fortunately or unfortunately, my bag appears to be set for quite a while, so I guess there will be some economy gained in that I don't plan to change any clubs soon!! (famous last words) Thanks again, Chris. Edited September 1, 2006 by dorkman53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 ok guys here's the rub. i had always hankered after a set of x-tours and finally got a set that i thought would be perfect for me, brand new with TC shafts. Hit them once and felt the club bounce on the ground - couldn't take a divit properly. Was rummaging around plus1's clubs and found a set of Scratch oversized blades. compared them to the x-tours and the only differences were a slightly thinner top line and thinner sole. Took them to the course and they're now staying in my bag. Couldn't believe I'd ever be hitting blades. I suppose on reflection if the ground was very soft then the x-tours would be good.... but i could also really feel the difference in the forging - kinda surprised myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I feel your pain. Getting up there in age, I made the switch to more forgiving clubs this year. I had just gotten my MP-60s (which I love to death!!) when I lucked out and won a set of G-Field NC-1s in one of Chris' most generous raffles. Both irons are forgiving and workable. The G-fields a tad more forgiving and the 60s a tad more workable. Both are much more forgiving than my old Mizuno blades. I don't think you'll miss your 32s at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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