Spoon Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 guys i have finally decided to start using my mg801 irons. they come with the the armrq b54 r shafts 1 star d2 sw. quite surprised how easy they are to hit inspite of the thinner topline and profile. anyway these shafts are approx 54g but the overall impression is that the club is heavy. much heavier than my katana i830 irons shod with rifle 90s c11 sw. my question is how do they manage the sw while keeping the weight of the overall shafts down? i am considering changing the shafts to the ns pro 1150s and wanted to know how this would affect the overall balance of the club? reason why i ask is some guy in our local golf shop mentioned that beres has two options one with the armrq and one with the nspros. the heads that come with the armrq b54s have heavier heads while the heads that come with the nspros are lighter and that changing the shafts would mess up the balance. he made sense but i do not beleive in his explanation. can you guys fill me in? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think your fitter or whoever is right. The Nspro1150 would be twice as heavy than the Armrq shaft and d2 is not exceptionally heavy sw. I think you would be ruining a complete good set of irons by changing to steel shaft. The 801 is not really designed for steel shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleDG Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 guys i have finally decided to start using my mg801 irons. they come with the the armrq b54 r shafts 1 star d2 sw. quite surprised how easy they are to hit inspite of the thinner topline and profile. anyway these shafts are approx 54g but the overall impression is that the club is heavy. much heavier than my katana i830 irons shod with rifle 90s c11 sw. my question is how do they manage the sw while keeping the weight of the overall shafts down? i am considering changing the shafts to the ns pro 1150s and wanted to know how this would affect the overall balance of the club? reason why i ask is some guy in our local golf shop mentioned that beres has two options one with the armrq and one with the nspros. the heads that come with the armrq b54s have heavier heads while the heads that come with the nspros are lighter and that changing the shafts would mess up the balance. he made sense but i do not beleive in his explanation. can you guys fill me in? thanks in advance Although I am not familiar with your specific clubs, your LGS gave you correct information -- OEM heads delivered from the manufacture with graphite shafts are weighted differently to reach SW's - verses those same heads with steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 thanks for the info guys. its clearer now. i guess i will just leave the stock shafts for now. going back to the topic of steel shafts looking at the catalogue of the beres line, they DONT have a steel shaft option for the mg801, that only available in the mg901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSport Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 thanks for the info guys. its clearer now. i guess i will just leave the stock shafts for now. going back to the topic of steel shafts looking at the catalogue of the beres line, they DONT have a steel shaft option for the mg801, that only available in the mg901 Yes, I think it's wise to leave a Honma clubs with their stock shafts. Unlike other makes they do take a good deal of care balancing theirs shafts in the clubs. Honma is known for precisely their graphite shafts which are of top quality and have been in the forefront of development, so if you decide not to use the shafts, why don't you find other makes that are better with steel shafts such as Mizuno, Titlest, etc. Don't ruin Honma shafts by taking them out of the heads. The TW901 is the tour professional line which a steel shaft option is available. I have a question, have you compared the MG701 vs the MG801? I find the former to be to forgiving and I need a bit of challenge but not too difficult, so I have been considering the MG801. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Yes, I think it's wise to leave a Honma clubs with their stock shafts. Unlike other makes they do take a good deal of care balancing theirs shafts in the clubs. Honma is known for precisely their graphite shafts which are of top quality and have been in the forefront of development, so if you decide not to use the shafts, why don't you find other makes that are better with steel shafts such as Mizuno, Titlest, etc. Don't ruin Honma shafts by taking them out of the heads.The TW901 is the tour professional line which a steel shaft option is available. I have a question, have you compared the MG701 vs the MG801? I find the former to be to forgiving and I need a bit of challenge but not too difficult, so I have been considering the MG801. yes i have decided to leave the oem graphite shafts. yes i have compared the 701 and 801, the aesthetics of the 801 are a lot better and are more streamlined. top line is also much thinner than the 701. the mg801 also seems it is also more for the better player compared to the 701. imho you cant go wrong with the m801. they are one of the most beautiful clubs i have seen and owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonlui Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 the MG801 comes with NSPRO950 from factory I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 the MG801 comes with NSPRO950 from factory I believe i have the 2007 brochure and the only iron with nspro 950 option is the 901. i could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonlui Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 i think a japanese ebay seller have both options with NSPRO950 much cheaper at $1k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted August 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 i think a japanese ebay seller have both options with NSPRO950 much cheaper at $1k do you have the link? if that is the price for brand new clubs then that would be the greatest beres bargain ive seen EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 do you have the link? if that is the price for brand new clubs then that would be the greatest beres bargain ive seen EVER. The 801 does not have nspro 950 option, only the 901 which is around $900 before shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted August 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 The 801 does not have nspro 950 option thats what i know as well. if they did id be all over that instead of my armqb4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayliu888 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hi Spoon, I am Ray from Panama. Recently, my wife bought a set of MG801 for my birthday. She heard me talked about Beres 801 so she went ahead and bought a brand new set (4~PW with 2 101 L wedges) with NP pro 950GH R-Flex. They are so beautiful..... but what I wanted was a graphite shaft with b54 stiff flex because now I have a problem of golf/tennis elbow!!! so I contacted the shop who my wife bought the set from, and they told me (after contacting Honma), and said not the weight of the head is different btw graphite & steel shaft, but the hosel size are different? (direct quote: both have different hosel size for their own design propose. So they couldn't fit in at all) I also contacted my friend in Los Angeles who is a fitter, he said if the hosel is smaller, he can make it bigger to fit in (mostly likely from steel shaft 0.370 to graphite 0.335)? But from steel to graphite maybe a challenge. Just want to share this info with you, thanks. Ray quote name='Spoon' date='Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM' post='137554'] guys i have finally decided to start using my mg801 irons. they come with the the armrq b54 r shafts 1 star d2 sw. quite surprised how easy they are to hit inspite of the thinner topline and profile. anyway these shafts are approx 54g but the overall impression is that the club is heavy. much heavier than my katana i830 irons shod with rifle 90s c11 sw. my question is how do they manage the sw while keeping the weight of the overall shafts down? i am considering changing the shafts to the ns pro 1150s and wanted to know how this would affect the overall balance of the club? reason why i ask is some guy in our local golf shop mentioned that beres has two options one with the armrq and one with the nspros. the heads that come with the armrq b54s have heavier heads while the heads that come with the nspros are lighter and that changing the shafts would mess up the balance. he made sense but i do not beleive in his explanation. can you guys fill me in? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayliu888 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 sorry,,,, from graphite 0.335 drill/expand the hosel to steel 0.370 is possible. ray Hi Spoon, I am Ray from Panama. Recently, my wife bought a set of MG801 for my birthday. She heard me talked about Beres 801 so she went ahead and bought a brand new set (4~PW with 2 101 L wedges) with NP pro 950GH R-Flex. They are so beautiful..... but what I wanted was a graphite shaft with b54 stiff flex because now I have a problem of golf/tennis elbow!!! so I contacted the shop who my wife bought the set from, and they told me (after contacting Honma), and said not the weight of the head is different btw graphite & steel shaft, but the hosel size are different? (direct quote: both have different hosel size for their own design propose. So they couldn't fit in at all) I also contacted my friend in Los Angeles who is a fitter, he said if the hosel is smaller, he can make it bigger to fit in (mostly likely from steel shaft 0.370 to graphite 0.335)? But from steel to graphite maybe a challenge. Just want to share this info with you, thanks. Ray quote name='Spoon' date='Jul 12 2007, 09:03 AM' post='137554'] guys i have finally decided to start using my mg801 irons. they come with the the armrq b54 r shafts 1 star d2 sw. quite surprised how easy they are to hit inspite of the thinner topline and profile. anyway these shafts are approx 54g but the overall impression is that the club is heavy. much heavier than my katana i830 irons shod with rifle 90s c11 sw. my question is how do they manage the sw while keeping the weight of the overall shafts down? i am considering changing the shafts to the ns pro 1150s and wanted to know how this would affect the overall balance of the club? reason why i ask is some guy in our local golf shop mentioned that beres has two options one with the armrq and one with the nspros. the heads that come with the armrq b54s have heavier heads while the heads that come with the nspros are lighter and that changing the shafts would mess up the balance. he made sense but i do not beleive in his explanation. can you guys fill me in? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELA Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 This is Bela, from Madrid, Spain. I own a set of 712 irons. Best irons ever (for me...). Beres people DO sell here 801 irons both in steel and graphite. I do not know about the heads´weights but I have seen and hit both and they are, at least, finished different. Graphite shafted heads are satin while steel shafted heads are chrome. Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 ray and bela many thanks for the info. my heads are polished chrome while the shafts are graphite. also the heads on mg801 are heavy. effective swingweight is almost a d2 inspite of the 60ish gram shafts. so the heads are weighted differently. replacing the shafts based on the info ray gave sounds like a big hassel and doesnt look like the factory intended it to be done. also by replacing the shaft you would effectively change the balance of the club, a club fitter could prob balance it but the swingweight would be to heavy for me. according to my clubfitter, if this is to be dont the option MUST come from the factory as the heads intended for steel are lighter than the ones inteded for graphite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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