gocchin Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Fourteen has released two wonderful new forged irons. The S25C forged TC-550 and super soft S20C TC-1000. Please excuse my very rough translation as I did this very quickly. Available October 19th through TSG! Overview: 1. Head speed above 98mph - professional upper-class person et. al 2. A combination of forgiveness and playability for the athlete golfer. 3. Thin topline, soft iron forging, compact head Head summary 1. Super soft forging S20C steel gives the impression of the ball being absorbed by the face. 2. Compact head size, less offset for nice address 3. The sole is small 4. The straight neck which it is easy to set up 5. Easy Satin Finish Specifications summary 1. The center of gravity has been designed for those with swing speeds above 98mph 2. The center of gravity distance of 33.8mm which it is easy to control and adds playability 3. The long irons have the center of gravity placed lower and ideal spin 4. Moderate forgiveness with a moment of inertia of 2350g cm2 which gives room for mistake 5. There is no strange feeling due to the fact that the center of gravity decreases across the irons 6. It prevents hooking by making the center of gravity distance short improving stability Overview: 1. Easy to hit soft forging low center of gravity iron 2. Players with all head speeds can enjoy the trajectory and the hitting impression of a soft iron forging 3. Easy to setup at address and provides a sense of relief 4. Simple head design = high quality Head summary 1. The soft iron (S25C) with the forging material providing superior feel 2. As for head size , it's not to big not too small = mid- size. 3. Sole designed for various lies 4. A little bit of offset to help square the face 5. beautiful finished detail Specifications summary 1. The center of gravity distance optimized for players below 98mph 2. Moderately forgiving 2350g cm2 moment of inertia still allows for some playability 3. 18.2mm CG placement for high trajectory is strong (#5 iron) = low center of gravity design 4. There is no strange feeling due to the fact that the center of gravity decreases across the irons 5. It prevents hooking by without making center of gravity distance short even at the short count, strikes cheapness, improvement stability 6. It prevents hooking by making the center of gravity distance short improving stability 7. The short irons have strong loft settings to keep down trajectory and improve control efficiency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Did Endo forge these ? The TC-1000 Forged looks pretty great - I guess these are forged from the same material as the Epon AF-301. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Did Endo forge these ?The TC-1000 Forged looks pretty great - I guess these are forged from the same material as the Epon AF-301. AF301 is S20C these are S25C but yes made by Endo sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Can some one tell us what S20C and S25c is?? I am guessing 20 is softer by the description?? How about the TC770 Forged?? 20 or 25?? How does TC770 Forged compare to the new 550??? replacment or new model?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 AF301 is S20C these are S25C but yes made by Endo sir. Are you sure C ? The TC1000 is S20C and the TC550 is S25C, correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Are you sure C ?The TC1000 is S20C and the TC550 is S25C, correct ? Yes that's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Are you sure C ?The TC1000 is S20C and the TC550 is S25C, correct ? Yes your correct! Im sorry I thought they were both S25C, just remember S20C vs S20C doesn't mean they will feel the same, Think of it as comparing the feel of the Miura 5002 to the 1006 or the Type J vs the Type S. Design matters a TON despite using the same material. I would assume because these are fourteen and their designs are always far above average they feel great. the 770 forged felt awesome too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Can some one tell us what S20C and S25c is??I am guessing 20 is softer by the description?? How about the TC770 Forged?? 20 or 25?? How does TC770 Forged compare to the new 550??? replacment or new model?? S20C = 1020 Carbonsteel S25C = 1025 Carbonsteel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Maybe the TC770 will still be in the line up then ? TC 550 midcapper CB TC 770 mid-low capper CB TC 1000 low capper CB TB 1000 low capper MB I really think Fourteen makes some great clubs, very simple elegant club head design. A guy at my local club bought a set from Fourteen US (TC 770), and he needed to have the clubs bent a bit upright. The club fitter told him they were almost too soft - he had never had anything this soft in his hands before.....to think of that...irons can actually be TOO soft I tried them, and WOW - only thing was the top line was a bit too thick in the short irons. But what an iron......wow ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Gocchin, thanks for the translation, much appreciated. Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Thanks for the translation and information everyone! I'm not sure what everyone else thinks, but I like the look of the TC 550 better than the TC 1000. The 550 seems to have a cleaner cavity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daamartin Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 For my eye, these are the most attractive irons I have seen since joining this site. The trusty z101s in the bag are getting nervous I think! Could anyone tell me whether the offset graduates from ~3.5mm down to about ~1.5mm from 4I to PW (or is it more than this? I see the 5I has 3mm)? This is an important consideration for me. In addition, I have always played s300 and wonder how different the s200 shafts would play (noticeable, or just a touch smoother)? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherd Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 For my eye, these are the most attractive irons I have seen since joining this site. The trusty z101s in the bag are getting nervous I think!Could anyone tell me whether the offset graduates from ~3.5mm down to about ~1.5mm from 4I to PW (or is it more than this? I see the 5I has 3mm)? This is an important consideration for me. In addition, I have always played s300 and wonder how different the s200 shafts would play (noticeable, or just a touch smoother)? Cheers Technically it will play a tad lighter & softer, but I don't think you'll even notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Technically it will play a tad lighter & softer, but I don't think you'll even notice. I agree its very hard to tell the difference if the swing weights and specs are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 TC-550 forged currently the number one selling irons on GDO based on the strength of it's preorders (not out till 19th)! Further proof of Fourteen's reputation for their irons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 TC-550 forged currently the number one selling irons on GDO based on the strength of it's preorders (not out till 19th)! Further proof of Fourteen's reputation for their irons... Sorry for my ignorance, but what's GDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Golf Digest Online Japan (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubHoUno Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) Golf Digest Online Japan (^_^) Thanks, I'll try and spell my way through it - I guess the address is: www.golfonline.co.jp - wish me luck Edited October 10, 2007 by Claus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbenz Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Will the TC-550 be good for a mid/high handicapper (getting lessons though :) )? I'm thinking of a JDM forged iron that I will use for a very long time and take me down to single digits. I'm evaluating my options. Either these or the Epon AF-701. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Will the TC-550 be good for a mid/high handicapper (getting lessons though :) )? I'm thinking of a JDM forged iron that I will use for a very long time and take me down to single digits. I'm evaluating my options. Either these or the Epon AF-701. If you are due paying member of this forum then there is no such thing as owning a set of irons or any clubs for a very long time. Seriouly you sound like you could be a beginner and there are many game improvement options such as the Epon 701, XXIO (cast) and Fourteen TC 550 (cast) that have a little more offsets. I am not saying that the 550 forged (steel shaft only i think) cannot be good for you but there are many more options for a beginner including those with graphite shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Besides the steel option only on the TC-550 the are geared towards the mid handicapper. But i would agree that there area a load of other irons that would be far easier to hit including the AF-701, XXIO, NV-NX, R7 XR, New ViQ, ONOFF Gravity Control, JPX E500 etc... but those TC-550 Forged just look sooooo good. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 you're all tempting me on getting rid of the viq forged for the 550's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 you're all tempting me on getting rid of the viq forged for the 550's. No one said anything about that lol, although it is tempting... I really think the ViQ Forged is a gem though. Hmmm more things to compare . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbenz Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks for the reply. I'll look into the others that were mentioned. but those TC-550 Forged just look sooooo good. ^^ Exactly! It really caught my eye and I'm very interested in JDM irons ever since I hit an old MX-20 t-zoid that was lying around the local pro shop. They also had a g-field cb iron in there and that felt really good too when I hit it dead-on. I'm playing the r7 xd's with steel shafts right now and they are good clubs but the feel couldn't compare to the ones I mentioned earlier. I just need to dial-in my swing for consistency and I'm working on that with my coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Fourteen are the the most solid feeling irons i have felt ever. But there are a few more i would like to try also. But I have had the 770's in the bag the longest of any iron I have ever had. I might try the new cb 1000 but the 770's are pure. Also the 550 irons should be one easy hitting head and the classic soft feeling irons out there for a higher handicapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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