I think we need a TSG tour van... modeled after these vans...

I second that.

That was way cool, now I would really like to get in the onoff van that could be hours of fun.

Here's the Taylormade Japan tour van....

Here's the Srixon Van...

Thanks T!!!!

I'll be dreaming tonight about building a set of clubs in the On Off Tour van.

All of the vans look like you could eat off of the floor...

Here's the Tourstage van...

That was way cool, now I would really like to get in the onoff van that could be hours of fun.

I'm with Breal!

damn those tour vans look better equipped than most of the local proshops. id like to visit the onoff tourvan. would be fun indeed

I second that…these tour vans are fantastic and certainly better equipped than the local shops I’ve been in

I always wondered why all the Japan golf gear brands are using western alphabet letters and not Japan letters.

I realize this is because they want the attention of the US and Euro market, but as it is currently very few select people from the western world purchase the expensive High end Japan JDM gear - so why do they continue to use the western letters, when they don't get attention from the Western world anyway ?

PS I'm thankful they do, but does this mean that all Japanese guys and girls have to learn both alphabets in school ?

I'll take from the factory made by one of the Japanese senior clubmakers anytime over a "tour van" anyday.

Tour van means trying to make it faster and onsite. Somehow "tour van" has become a selling point.

I'll take from the factory made by one of the Japanese senior clubmakers anytime over a "tour van" anyday.

Tour van means trying to make it faster and onsite. Somehow "tour van" has become a selling point.

Exactly! Tour Van's use quick methods and really are not concerned with the visual finish of the club.

We have to remember they do look nice but their purpose is to serve the pros they sponsor... they are mobile for good reason, to perform on the spot service like repairs and tweaks for their players and yeah it has to be quick, they can't tell their player, "it'll be ready in 5 days" it's more like 5 minutes! (^_^)

I always wondered why all the Japan golf gear brands are using western alphabet letters and not Japan letters.

I realize this is because they want the attention of the US and Euro market, but as it is currently very few select people from the western world purchase the expensive High end Japan JDM gear - so why do they continue to use the western letters, when they don't get attention from the Western world anyway ?

PS I'm thankful they do, but does this mean that all Japanese guys and girls have to learn both alphabets in school ?

Actually Claus, the English language and the alphabet is required to be taught in schools in Japan. It used to start at the middle school level but is now also quite common at the elementary level as well. I believe Chris could tell you more about that having taught English there for some time.

Actually Claus, the English language and the alphabet is required to be taught in schools in Japan. It used to start at the middle school level but is now also quite common at the elementary level as well. I believe Chris could tell you more about that having taught English there for some time.

Not only that but almost ALL japanese brands golf or not are use the english alphabet. Japanese katakana too is essentially their attempt at sounding out the english alphabet. Very common indeed! (^_^)

I always wondered why all the Japan golf gear brands are using western alphabet letters and not Japan letters.

I realize this is because they want the attention of the US and Euro market, but as it is currently very few select people from the western world purchase the expensive High end Japan JDM gear - so why do they continue to use the western letters, when they don't get attention from the Western world anyway ?

PS I'm thankful they do, but does this mean that all Japanese guys and girls have to learn both alphabets in school ?

Claus

How oftern do you go and visit Japan? You need to spend time there, perhaps not just a short 1 week trip but longer so you can understand and appreicate the national culture and the modern Japan society. You would then you would understand the use of Western name on some or all of their products.

Not only that but almost ALL japanese brands golf or not are use the english alphabet. Japanese katakana too is essentially their attempt at sounding out the english alphabet. Very common indeed! (^_^)

I didn't realize that's where katakana came from. My sister lived in Japan for years teaching English and tried to explain the use of English alphabet because it made me curious to see it all the time.

Back on topic, I had clubs built by the Cleveland Van at a demo day several years ago and they needed repair inside of 2 weeks because of the sloppy job they did. Have not been a fan since for that reason.

Actually Claus, the English language and the alphabet is required to be taught in schools in Japan. It used to start at the middle school level but is now also quite common at the elementary level as well. I believe Chris could tell you more about that having taught English there for some time.

Ahaaa.....thank you - I'm getting wiser and wiser by the day

I live and learn each and every day, and as long as I learn something new every day, I feel that more alive.

Claus

How oftern do you go and visit Japan? You need to spend time there, perhaps not just a short 1 week trip but longer so you can understand and appreicate the national culture and the modern Japan society. You would then you would understand the use of Western name on some or all of their products.

I would love to go and visit Japan - but I'm afraid I would get lost because all the maps and road names are in Japanese letters and not western letters - as opposed to the JDM Golf gear brands

I feel like I have many things in common with the Japanese people, surely there's reason why the Scandinavian countries (where I'm from) have that many tourists from Japan all year round, even during the winter time. We all praise high quality products and do our best to sustain that level of quality in most of what we do and buy, from clothing to foods to furniture.

Well then I would still like some hours of fun in the onoff tour van. But now I want some days in Japan at the onoff tour facility lol

I'll take from the factory made by one of the Japanese senior clubmakers anytime over a "tour van" anyday.

Tour van means trying to make it faster and onsite. Somehow "tour van" has become a selling point.

Interesting, I see alot of stuff on Ebay marked "custom made in tour van" selling for extremely high dollar amounts. In actuality sometimes the finished club w/the non-cosmetic finish does indeed appeal to my eyes, but I do agree w/XXIO custom made clubs in the hands of the experienced maker is what we all really want. ;)

Perhaps the quality of the components is better in the tour van

I wonder if someone like Tom Wishon or Joe Kwok has ever worked in a tour van??

The one and only person I've met that has worked in a tour van was very confident of his ability to build golf clubs. That said I have a couple of favourite club makers who have never worked in a tour van.