Utility new one neded

[supo]

Fellas the only remaining club that hasnt been changed is going to be. The tm burner has come to its use by date ,basicaly bec i hit my buds epon 901 and i smoked it,my question is what is there to consider? 22 degrees for use to long par 3s, 200 225 ish this is for and i want to be able to draw fade it obv the epon is no 1 in my thought now but?

[skippercarey]

I had the 901 19* it was Ok but nothing special, in my opinion Adams make the best Hybrids for the better players give the Idea Pro Black a try

I can hit mine Fade, Draw, Low, High its like iron with the forgivness of a fairway wood

[Spoon]

I had the 901 19* it was Ok but nothing special, in my opinion Adams make the best Hybrids for the better players give the Idea Pro Black a try

I can hit mine Fade, Draw, Low, High its like iron with the forgivness of a fairway wood

i have the 19*, 22 and 25 epons. they are easier to hit than irons but not as forgiving as a good ole fashioned hybrid.

i agree with the above poster i have an adams super black hybrid-FW. very long and super forgiving. the only NON jdm club

in my bag

[+TourSpecGolfer]

I'm a big fan of the 901's don't currently play any but love how long they go and how accurate they are.

I consider those a driving iron not hybrid, Yes hybrids are easier to hit but the amount of trouble you can get in compared to driving irons increases.

The 901 is safe and extremely long with the proper shaft and build. It's been instrumental in many 2nd shot's into the green on par 5's for me.

If your looking for a hybrid the new X-UT looks good, expect a lower flight, Royal Collections new one looks promising as well.

[gocchin]

S try the RC TRC, its available from RC with DI7 and DI8 shafts. I play one now and its awesome. Compact, very straight, very good feel.

[EPONfreak]

I have 19* 22* & 25* 901's which have all been in my bag at various times. I think they are awsome, the feel is out of this world like a forged iron. I find them more accurate than a traditional hybrid. Choice boils down to whether you are more comfortable with an iron or wood and what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps if you're using hybrid for a driving club the extra size and forgiveness of a utility may suit, but for precision I have had more success with the 901.

[Blader-X]

S try the RC TRC, its available from RC with DI7 and DI8 shafts. I play one now and its awesome. Compact, very straight, very good feel.

This TRC is a revision of the old Sonartec TRC. Back then it was my belief that these TRC's were the perfect hybrid. I still feel very much the same way. In fact I'm thinking of bringing my old 22 degree TRC off the shelf to take over for the 3 iron. I've been slowed by injuries this year so I'm thinking of shelving the 3 iron for awhile. And yes, I know what many will say and that's no one should be hitting a 3 iron or even 4 iron anymore. You can save a post as I'm well aware of this. However, for certain shots a 3-iron suits the bill unlike any hybrid can. Getting back to the utility clubs though, my current utility is an older TourStage X-UT and its served me very well. I didn't like it when they changed to the newer style so if you looking for something new, I would second Gocchin and suggest the new RC TRC. Very similar in looks and playability to the old style and it can be used in rough, off the fairway from fw bunkers and even on little short run-up shots. Extremely versatile club. I must say I've had my eye on the new TRC's as well, but first off I'm going with the new 3 wood from RC.

[Blader-X]

This TRC is a revision of the old Sonartec TRC. Back then it was my belief that these TRC's were the perfect hybrid. I still feel very much the same way. In fact I'm thinking of bringing my old 22 degree TRC off the shelf to take over for the 3 iron. I've been slowed by injuries this year so I'm thinking of shelving the 3 iron for awhile. And yes, I know what many will say and that's no one should be hitting a 3 iron or even 4 iron anymore. You can save a post as I'm well aware of this. However, for certain shots a 3-iron suits the bill unlike any hybrid can. Getting back to the utility clubs though, my current utility is an older TourStage X-UT and its served me very well. I didn't like it when they changed to the newer style so if you looking for something new, I would second Gocchin and suggest the new RC TRC. Very similar in looks and playability to the old style and it can be used in rough, off the fairway from fw bunkers and even on little short run-up shots. Extremely versatile club. I must say I've had my eye on the new TRC's as well, but first off I'm going with the new 3 wood from RC.

Forgive me but I also wanted to comment on the Graphite Design SF shafts that are available on the new TRC's. I have a SF-8x in my current 3 wood, the PRGR Egg Spoon. This shaft is exceptional at helping to create a very straight ball flight. Its dispersion is extremely tight and gives good feedback as well. Although I haven't hit it in the TRC, my guess would be that the combo would be deadly accurate. Well, good luck to you in your search.

[Mjr. D]

I'm currently looking for a new hybrid too. Right now I have a Adams Pro Black. It's ok, but the feel is pretty blah/dead.

So what's the difference between the 2009 RC TRC and the 2010 SFD III?

Also, what's the differences between the brand new Tourstage 2010 X-Ut and the brand new 2010 X-Drive GR Utility?

Other's to consider in my opinion

Titleist 903 F3

Yamaha Inpres XD UT

Taylormade Raylor

[supo]

i dont have a club that i can "go to" for this super tight longish shot that needs to go about 215+ with a fullish swing, and not go high. ive been trying the new egg for this but its either too long or it snaps as i have to choke down to the base of the grip. and sting it , its just not happeneing . esp shots on windy days or when i want to lay up to wedge distance. the courses im playing have gotten longer and tighter , and theres a specific hole i play i have in mind this shot is coming up more and more often as blader x says if i used a 4 iron this would nt be an issue but i dont so im scratching around for another answer, these other clubs are either too long or pop up. 3 stinger shots o/b with the 5 wood on sat did my head in ! it totally ruined an otherwise awsome front nine ,5 pars, 2 birds, 1 bogie and a 9...., i just cant have that on a score card, ( YES of course im blaming the tools here not my loss of head , hahahah, ) .., anyway i was so jacked i got str8 on here after the game and wailed for some direction.

im think im going to have a go at one of the UTES mentioned above , either the RC or the adams...., AND im getting the 901 , which ive hit so well on limited occasions from the the tee box . the only thing is the shaft issue. the one my bud has i dont like at all . no idea what it is, its a single piece of super/ super light steel maybe even titanium (?) doenst suit me at all . its far to soft what ever it is none of us has clue, maybe even some kind of composite ,but we're not sure. ive seen this club with a diamana thump in them if anyone got any experience with that shaft?

or i was thinking of going the Ns pron 1050 x FW wood steel shaft route. which i have and love. it not the longest but its pretty darn straight im kinda partial to steel in my utes .

[Spoon]

i dont have a club that i can "go to" for this super tight longish shot that needs to go about 215+ with a fullish swing, and not go high. ive been trying the new egg for this but its either too long or it snaps as i have to choke down to the base of the grip. and sting it , its just not happeneing . esp shots on windy days or when i want to lay up to wedge distance. the courses im playing have gotten longer and tighter , and theres a specific hole i play i have in mind this shot is coming up more and more often as blader x says if i used a 4 iron this would nt be an issue but i dont so im scratching around for another answer, these other clubs are either too long or pop up. 3 stinger shots o/b with the 5 wood on sat did my head in ! it totally ruined an otherwise awsome front nine ,5 pars, 2 birds, 1 bogie and a 9...., i just cant have that on a score card, ( YES of course im blaming the tools here not my loss of head , hahahah, ) .., anyway i was so jacked i got str8 on here after the game and wailed for some direction.

im think im going to have a go at one of the UTES mentioned above , either the RC or the adams...., AND im getting the 901 , which ive hit so well on limited occasions from the the tee box . the only thing is the shaft issue. the one my bud has i dont like at all . no idea what it is, its a single piece of super/ super light steel maybe even titanium (?) doenst suit me at all . its far to soft what ever it is none of us has clue, maybe even some kind of composite ,but we're not sure. ive seen this club with a diamana thump in them if anyone got any experience with that shaft?

or i was thinking of going the Ns pron 1050 x FW wood steel shaft route. which i have and love. it not the longest but its pretty darn straight im kinda partial to steel in my utes .

you will like the 901. i have tried mine with a multitude of shafts, stock machline, KBS tour hybrid, Nspro 950 Hybrid, Nspro super peening orane, Nspro proto, oban revenge hybrid etc etc the only thing that worked for me was a NSpro 750 S shaft. it is lightweight and works well for me. i being the tinkerer pulled it out and have shafted it with PX flighted 5.5. i currently use 6.0 in my irons from 4-pw w no problems so i figured my 3i replacement should be around the same specs albeit a slightly flexier shaft. i wont have an oppurtunity to try it anytime soon as i have a back injury and will most likely be off golf for several months.

[FatMan]

Forgive me but I also wanted to comment on the Graphite Design SF shafts that are available on the new TRC's. I have a SF-8x in my current 3 wood, the PRGR Egg Spoon. This shaft is exceptional at helping to create a very straight ball flight. Its dispersion is extremely tight and gives good feedback as well. Although I haven't hit it in the TRC, my guess would be that the combo would be deadly accurate. Well, good luck to you in your search.

B,

How do you find the launch characteristics of the SF shaft? I have 1 hanging around & I'm trying to figure out if it'll be a better fit in my Egg 3W vs. the Crazy FW80.

[EPONfreak]

I'm currently trying Altus HB in my 19* 901 because I had this shaft lying around, it's ok, a bit light, I look forward to trying the DI hybrid shaft which has just launched on tour and should be available at retail in Feb.

I have KBS hybrid in my 22* and a standard KBS 90 in my 25* both are excellent, perhaps the better IMO is the standard iron shaft if you want to maintain and iron like performance and feel. I went for the 90 instead of the Tour 5.5 as per my irons to save a few grams, works well.

[Spoon]

Fellas the only remaining club that hasnt been changed is going to be. The tm burner has come to its use by date ,basicaly bec i hit my buds epon 901 and i smoked it,my question is what is there to consider? 22 degrees for use to long par 3s, 200 225 ish this is for and i want to be able to draw fade it obv the epon is no 1 in my thought now but?

why dont you get a 19* for more versatility and just choke down. i have all the 901 lofts but decided to game the 19 only. its crazy long and i can just choke to achieve a 22 distance. i am having much success with my 502 4 iron so dont need a 22

[supo]

B,

How do you find the launch characteristics of the SF shaft? I have 1 hanging around & I'm trying to figure out if it'll be a better fit in my Egg 3W vs. the Crazy FW80.

OOOOH IF U REPALCE THAT F80 SEND IT MY WAY.

[skippercarey]

B,

How do you find the launch characteristics of the SF shaft? I have 1 hanging around & I'm trying to figure out if it'll be a better fit in my Egg 3W vs. the Crazy FW80.

I had the SF8 in a 15* Epon 201 and then in a Adams Prototype 16* launch was mid, low spin piercing ball flight. Very nice shaft for the $ but not as good as the Accra i replaced it with, i sold it to a +2 hcp golfer who plays in the State Team here and he loves it

[FatMan]

OOOOH IF U REPALCE THAT F80 SEND IT MY WAY.

I swing much slower than you guys so I highly doubt the flex of the FW80 that I have will be much use to you.

[FatMan]

I had the SF8 in a 15* Epon 201 and then in a Adams Prototype 16* launch was mid, low spin piercing ball flight. Very nice shaft for the $ but not as good as the Accra i replaced it with, i sold it to a +2 hcp golfer who plays in the State Team here and he loves it

Thanks for your response! Hmmm.... decisions, decisions, decisions... I guess the only way for me to find out which would be a better fit, would be to try both... really wish there was a good clubmaker nearby to help me with all this experimenting I'm starting to do.

[supo]

I swing much slower than you guys so I highly doubt the flex of the FW80 that I have will be much use to you.

ok tks ., nice bag btw!

[Blader-X]

B,

How do you find the launch characteristics of the SF shaft? I have 1 hanging around & I'm trying to figure out if it'll be a better fit in my Egg 3W vs. the Crazy FW80.

With the Egg head, it launches on the higher side. I have hit low shots with the combo but mostly, its higher than I would like. I don't attribute this the shaft so much as the Egg itself. I will say though that its not a ballooning type of flight. It just gets up very quick and rides on out. The dispersion however is very tight. As close to an iron type of dispersion as one can get with a graphite shaft.

[supo]

With the Egg head, it launches on the higher side. I have hit low shots with the combo but mostly, its higher than I would like. I don't attribute this the shaft so much as the Egg itself. I will say though that its not a ballooning type of flight. It just gets up very quick and rides on out. The dispersion however is very tight. As close to an iron type of dispersion as one can get with a graphite shaft.

agreed., its the head thats high launching and super tight. balls just kinda sail off into the sunset. the thing i notice is when i try and sting the ball , if i dont middle it prefectly the downward swing pressure can force balloons much worse than other clubs ive had. , the fix is simple.........., DONT try it. unless ur prepared for the consequences !

the club ive been trying this with is the 18* old model with the diamana stinger x. i ve been working on this shot for a cpl of weeks and its gettign better and more conssitant but when i miss it kabbbbbbom gone o/b.., the stinger in the 18* actaully brings the flight down and its crazy long!! i mean crazy. no way this is a normal 5 wood length. thast why im working on using this club more to do this shot but if i miss it "the stig " falls about laughing bec the ball pops up 3 kilometers up and goes 10 yrads forward.

but when u get it just right well......, he who laughs last...... laughs longest!