supo Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 id presume this has been coverd a milion times already but i cant find any links. whast the skinny on the copper wedges , ive seen a cpl about. they look pretty good to the eye just wondering whast the y play like, im sure spoon, you must have had these in your travels! im curous as to the feel and playability of copper anyone played, has them now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 id presume this has been coverd a milion times already but i cant find any links. whast the skinny on the copper wedges , ive seen a cpl about. they look pretty good to the eye just wondering whast the y play like, im sure spoon, you must have had these in your travels! im curous as to the feel and playability of copper anyone played, has them now? i have played all the lofts and colors of the 208. imho stay away from the black as they fade really fast most especially in the contact area of face and the sole. copper is the prettiest it is a purplish shiny black gold color that changes in different lighting conditions and get better with age. after several rounds the shiny coating will wear or fade but it gives character to the club. as to the feel they are all the same to me. but for durability i like the satins the best. when i say durability i am talking of the finish. the coppers get better in age and will sort of patina but they can look pretty used after several months, the satins pretty much look the same no matter how much use goes into them. the 208 all in all is for the better player, not so forgiving when you open them up compared to the 210. they however have the very much desired bite lacking in the conforming 210.. also the newer 210 only comes in satin . copper is a very expensive upcharge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 i have played all the lofts and colors of the 208. imho stay away from the black as they fade really fast most especially in the contact area of face and the sole. copper is the prettiest it is a purplish shiny black gold color that changes in different lighting conditions and get better with age. after several rounds the shiny coating will wear or fade but it gives character to the club. as to the feel they are all the same to me. but for durability i like the satins the best. when i say durability i am talking of the finish. the coppers get better in age and will sort of patina but they can look pretty used after several months, the satins pretty much look the same no matter how much use goes into them. the 208 all in all is for the better player, not so forgiving when you open them up compared to the 210. they however have the very much desired bite lacking in the conforming 210.. also the newer 210 only comes in satin . copper is a very expensive upcharge worth throwing the bag for a few rounds then? i found the same thing with the fourteens , cant lay em open enough but beautiful feel ,really like those. but not enough to push out the gamers, these copper things just look special gotta give em a whirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 worth throwing the bag for a few rounds then? i found the same thing with the fourteens , cant lay em open enough but beautiful feel ,really like those. but not enough to push out the gamers, these copper things just look special gotta give em a whirl. yep defintely worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hey S., I have them as a 52°. I never really lay them open, so can't comment on that. But when you open the face they don't really look like laying flat on the ground, that is true. Feel is superb and spin a really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippercarey Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I dont have trouble opening the face on these unless i have a tight hard pan lie. Awesome spin with these wedges and iv had mine for over a year now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I dont have trouble opening the face on these unless i have a tight hard pan lie. Awesome spin with these wedges and iv had mine for over a year now these shud suit the J conditions perfectly then. im going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mybluc4 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 BeCu irons can no longer be produced in the States and have not been since around 1996. Very hard metal with very soft feel. If you want to try a copper wedge, I would suggest you purchase a Ping ISI or Ping Eye 2 wedge on ebay. I can personally attest to how terrific the ISI's are as I have a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 got em in the bag .look damn tootin' shoot out with em this sat . cant wait. 50* + 56* rifle 6.0 shafts never heard of those but they look pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 got em in the bag .look damn tootin' shoot out with em this sat . cant wait. 50* + 56* rifle 6.0 shafts never heard of those but they look pretty nice. rifles are good shafts, same maker as the project x prior to them being bought by true temper http://www.royalprecision.com/royalprecision/rifle.asp enjoy the wedges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPONfreak Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 There have been many comments, including by myself, in relation to the 208 wedges. I will say that after much adjustment I have mine perfect and they are the best performing wedges I've owned. In retrospect, having wedges ground and bent to personal specs is probably the most critical aspect of equipment fitting as far as scoring is concerned. Therefore, whilst I was originally critical of some of the design aspects namely the wide sole & lack of heel and toe relief in reality this gave me a good area to grind on until they are just perfect! I'll post some pics of mine on the weekend if there's any interest. I have added a 210 gap wedge to my bag and it spins plenty, I'm used to conforming grooves anyway, playing the AF-Tour as irons. However, I'm used to playing with the luxury of ball shearing spin with the 208 sand and lob wedges and I'm not ready to give that up just yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMan Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 There have been many comments, including by myself, in relation to the 208 wedges. I will say that after much adjustment I have mine perfect and they are the best performing wedges I've owned. In retrospect, having wedges ground and bent to personal specs is probably the most critical aspect of equipment fitting as far as scoring is concerned. Therefore, whilst I was originally critical of some of the design aspects namely the wide sole & lack of heel and toe relief in reality this gave me a good area to grind on until they are just perfect! I'll post some pics of mine on the weekend if there's any interest. I have added a 210 gap wedge to my bag and it spins plenty, I'm used to conforming grooves anyway, playing the AF-Tour as irons. However, I'm used to playing with the luxury of ball shearing spin with the 208 sand and lob wedges and I'm not ready to give that up just yet! Love to see the pics of the grinds that you had done to them! I echo the sentiment of others of it being better for softer conditions. I gamed the 52 & 56 for quite a bit and have worn down the sole of the sand wedge. I do miss the crazy spin you get from them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops1967 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) You can get a matching set of 302 irons in the finish if you ask..... they feel fine, and wear nicely - like a regular chromed set.... the finish is presumably a copper'ed nickel with chrome as the outer plating layer as usual (don't know the details, I'd be interested to hear them though, just out of interest) and the same underlying steel. Any way, it's lovely - here's pics of my copper chromed 301's (as new) with some of the 7 iron after much heavy practice/lessons on mats... the purpley flaminess does 'cool' off after a few months... they age very nicely. NO IRON COVERS WERE USED IN THE LIFE OF THESE IRONS ;-) the worn 7 iron... Coops Edited October 5, 2010 by coops1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 i still get amazed when i see those copper 301s. lovely. your set looks extremely preserved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalemate Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 coops, have you ever compared these to ones with satin finish? I'm wondering if the cooper enhances the feel at impact in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 they are so negligible i hardly even notice them. in the wedges that is. never had the pleasure of trying copper irons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops1967 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) I'd say the feel is the same for the copper and the regular chrome finishes - as far as i'm aware it's the underlying nickel plating that is how the colour is changed (and how the 'black nickel' look is achieved for the custom Mizuno's etc), so it's still a chrome plated head..... the black nickel/chrome look will tend to show wear worse just due to it's 'blackness' - compare it to black cars etc showing up scratches and dirt or paint imperfections more than a light or white coloured car. I'm quite surprised how few dings there are on them actually.... The only problem i've had with them, is caddies getting nervous in stormy weather - (lightning!) I did have those same 301's in the black finish before.... that finish did feel different - a bit harder/harsher in fact. Lookeded great to start with.... but in Bangkok, the heat/humidity meant way too much rust and/or maintenance required..... I saw a set of the AF-Tour blades at Golfcraft in the copper finish....... oooooooh mama. Coops Edited October 6, 2010 by coops1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 They are the best looking irons i think ive ever seen that cooperlook is awsome。 im 5 days into my golfathon at the phoenix in miyazKi absolutely the best facilities in Japan. they are starting to grow and plant new grass for the phoenix tourny in nov. ive Played. 4 rounds with the icopper 208s the feel is great the spin is terrific but as i had the same trouble doing With the fourteens just a bit difficult to lay open. im going to try and get them ground a bit bec they feel terrific just want a thinner heel and sole、not sure they will displace the kyoeis tho those giant offset mumblers have me hooked. They have become my faves. Glad i got them tho. They arenpretty good feeling wedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Yup keep in mind the humidity of where you live or play is a big factor in black or copper finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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