Hi Folks,

Reason is I'm a digger and conditions at the courses i play is lush/soft and gets a bit wet too. But the big chunky irons never suited my eye.

I'm referring to +3 bounce to standard example:

• PW standard bounce around 6or7 so so around 10or11
  
• 4 iron standard 2* so 5*
  

The Callaway x Proto i think fits this bill which is the new Razr MB.

Thanks in advance

Eric

Surely some one must know..

What's the issue your having? I don't follow bounce angles on irons at all to be honest but if digging into turf is your issue or you play in softer conditions there are different shaped soles I can recommend.

im lost totally

u play in oz the grounds are generally a lot tougher than elsewhere the grass is usually shorter and tougher

i always went for small soled irons like kyoei blades tourstage 901s or yururi flatbacks

that kind i find they are best down there

im lost totally

u play in oz the grounds are generally a lot tougher than elsewhere the grass is usually shorter and tougher

i always went for small soled irons like kyoei blades tourstage 901s or yururi flatbacks

that kind i find they are best down there

Stew, i think the courses you play like long reef? I think they are shorter and tougher deck. I've only played one tight lie fairway & firm, The Vintage at hunter Valley and not far behind is the Macquarie Links. I excel with my irons there. The majority of courses out west unfortunately is not.

There has to be something in it for the Callaway x Prototypes to release such high bounce blades and has a big following which btw is now in the RAZR MB. Just check the specs PW at 11* bounce. I mean why would they release this? Perhaps this is versatile enough for most of the course conditions.

What's the issue your having? I don't follow bounce angles on irons at all to be honest but if digging into turf is your issue or you play in softer conditions there are different shaped soles I can recommend.

Hi Chris,

Im really looking more into better turf interaction which i think the slim sole are a little more sensitive to. I have come to realise that i need to really take into account the course conditions that i generally play and the mid autumn - winter - mid spring where my game suffers. Grounds softens, wet early (when i'm normally playing), last couple of seasons quite rainy.. digger style swing with low bounce clubs = glancing blow. Its almost i need a different set for these months ie wider sole but they aesthetically they just dont sit well with me. When i say the specs of the Cally x proto i was wondering why they did this and maybe this is the kind of set up i need with perhaps a slightly blunted leading edge. Of course since enjoying my first couple of JDM clubs, I;m naturally inclined towards JSPEC Irons that fits the bill. Problem is lack of access to demo.

Eric

Umm the Yonex MB in the proshop.. Are this figures the bounce ie 9* for the PW? Can't read Japanese.

This could be the set for a digger like me. Need more info on this.

JAT,

IF, weaker lofts, 2-3* weaker. fits in to the right gaps... have you considered bending them?

A 46*Loft w\8* of bounce will have 10* bounce if bent to 48*loft.

Bending the clubs this way would open up almost all of the JDM sets. (with narrow soles) :)

I've not done this with a complete iron set but do it with wedges all the time with great results.

JAT,

IF, weaker lofts, 2-3* weaker. fits in to the right gaps... have you considered bending them?

A 46*Loft w\8* of bounce will have 10* bounce if bent to 48*loft.

Bending the clubs this way would open up almost all of the JDM sets. (with narrow soles) :)

I've not done this with a complete iron set but do it with wedges all the time with great results.

good idea bending to weaker loft will increase bounce

Also nothing wrong with playing callaway proto, endo forged

good idea bending to weaker loft will increase bounce

Also nothing wrong with playing callaway proto, endo forged

Yea Chris just verified being endo forged S20c.

I found out the bounce of the 1957s.. wow a lot more than my mp68.

JAT,

IF, weaker lofts, 2-3* weaker. fits in to the right gaps... have you considered bending them?

A 46*Loft w\8* of bounce will have 10* bounce if bent to 48*loft.

Bending the clubs this way would open up almost all of the JDM sets. (with narrow soles) :)

I've not done this with a complete iron set but do it with wedges all the time with great results.

thanks idrive.. with my target irons PW 47/8 against my current 47/6 I have a better baseline should i need more bounce.

thanks idrive.. with my target irons PW 47/8 against my current 47/6 I have a better baseline should i need more bounce.

E so whats the skinny, have you decided on what set your getting or potentially

Eyeing? I agree with Jeff on the bending thing have done it a lot with my wedges

Most especially in my 52 and 58. 2 deg bending down will increase bounce by 2 deg,

Doesn't sound much but makes a world of difference. In fact I just bent my RC 58 into

A 60 to make it more playable in the softer wet conditions locally.

If I tell you you're gonna think I'm nuts C.. It's on order I'll take photos.. test it.. if it becomes the gamer then I'll tell you lol.

If I tell you you're gonna think I'm nuts C.. It's on order I'll take photos.. test it.. if it becomes the gamer then I'll tell you lol.

Email me. Nothing is too nuts unless ...

Had a round today with my 302s in the worst possible

Weather imaginable, wet wet wet, soggy runny fairways,

Had no problems with my irons. In fact it was my 3w and wedges

That dug lol.

:) if this fails, I'm going 302s.

C, is there an instruction how to upload high quality photos?

:) if this fails, I'm going 302s.

C, is there an instruction how to upload high quality photos?

Email me il post em for you.i use a photo hosting site

ahh ok I will next week at the earliest.

Thanks C.