EponHead Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) Howdy! Im looking for a new driver (head) and the new CRZ-435II caught my eye, it just looks amazing. Does anyone know how new model compare to the previous head? Longer/Shorter? higher/lower launch? Hot face? And how does jBEAM FX Tour-425 compare to the above? Is the CRZ-435II sold out already? Lots of q´s i know but any info is appreciated Cheers Edited September 4, 2011 by EponHead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadimadiMadi Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Howdy! Im looking for a new driver (head) and the new CRZ-435II caught my eye, it just looks amazing. Does anyone know how new model compare to the previous head? Longer/Shorter? higher/lower launch? Hot face? And how does jBEAM FX Tour-425 compare to the above? Is the CRZ-435II sold out already? Lots of q´s i know but any info is appreciated Cheers hi t said 1st lots has sold out now but i got mine last last week... on hol's now wil test the new and old next week CRZ 435 LS80II vs CRZ 435II CB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Did it today results posted later safe to say rhe new model is good different feel hit out against 2yamahas and a crazy 460 had time to let the days play sink in. Choosimg between these is a rediculously hard job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EponHead Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) Did it today results posted later safe to say rhe new model is good different feel hit out against 2yamahas and a crazy 460 had time to let the days play sink in. Choosimg between these is a rediculously hard job Looking forward to your review! Whats you spec for the 435II head? Edited September 11, 2011 by EponHead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkats Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 hi t said 1st lots has sold out now but i got mine last last week... on hol's now wil test the new and old next week CRZ 435 LS80II vs CRZ 435II CB46 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backspinn76 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 I recived my 435II head yesterday, 1 degree open face and 201 gram. Will shaft w the Superio HM-80T MUGIO. The Crazy 50 goes in my AF102. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petethepilot Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well, someone post a comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 i thought i already did this somewhere.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandee11 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Well, someone post a comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited September 29, 2011 by sandee11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 ok here goes the new one looks a lot better , the materials may be differnt to the old one , to the eye they certialy look to be. the shape is prerrty much the same, mabe a little smaller over all, it looks to be. the palcement of the weights under the head are totaly differnt. the face looks the same at address tho that rounded square look that is very jbeam is the same as the old one. i shafted it with the illima 70 x . this head is notorious for low balls, i mean loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. so i figuered a higher launching shaft might be a good idea to start. yea it was ok, the old head is very muted, the only shaft that felt any good with this head IMO was the original tj46 longest yard. it was miles better than everything else ive tried. dumb assss of me to sell it ,but it was too long at 46 inch and bec its so light trimming down wouldnt have been a good idea. the illima felt pretty good in this head ,def got the ball i n the air easier and didnt really move laterally too much the flight was ok, if anything a slight draw bias. it wasnt high nor low , it was pretty mid really. th distance i got was great form the screws., this is a distance driver if ever ive hit one, out of the screws its just massive. miss**ts were pretty good as well, as good as ryoma?? hmmmmmm not sure about that , but def NOT a huge loss of distance that i saw, ( iwas hiting on a 280 yard range ) the solidness and shape is prob to thank for that its like looking at hitting a ball with a brick the feel is still a bit muted, but no where near as pronounced as the older version, there was a noticebale crispness to it on centered shots. again its not a driver to move about like johhny travs hips , its still def for the guy that wants to launch the absolute bejesus out of balls prince fielder with this in his hands would be a poster boy IMO 'if ulike a very square looking driver head then ull love this , and if uwant to just uttely clobber balls, theres not much better, prob nothing . aesthetically its a defintie improvement on the older one . sight and sound for sure , and it def felt crisper. but i didnt really notice any real differnce in length or flight. the old one is a pretty darn good driver head! T can chip in here with the actual testing specs and what crazy put out , ihavnt bothered to read what theysaid abt it, but yes id have spot for it in my stable. dont know yet if id buy it to repalce my current one....... but if u want this kind of head well theres not much out there ive hit thats in its class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petethepilot Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanks Stew. Love your real world reviews. What are u going to play in OZ (if your able to come on down? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Excellent stuff Stew. Tell me, would you prefer a CRZ 435II with say, a Royal Decoration, To get a bit of friendliness and a slightly higher launch with this low-launch head. OR say, a CRZ 460 with a low launch shaft like a LS 80 or similar to get the flight down just a smidge with this high launch head to enhance roll out? Id like to see that comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCMB Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 The opposite, 80LS in the 435 and Royal Dec in the 460, the 435 is meant to be a monster of a club, demanding in the extreme, but rewarding when your consistent and can make the beast work for you, if you wanna put it on auto pilot a bit more then try dropping a half flex in the 80LS, I really think Crazy(and Jbeam) build there athlete model heads to work best with the heavier, stouter shafts, more of a tour type setup, you def could toss a lighter simpler shaft in this head and it would still prob work great and deliver monster distance, but i just don't think the club would feel or play as it's designed to with a lightweight shaft. I personally just see this head and think it needs to be a low launch, big run type club that doesn't get high in the air at all, but handles anything you throw at it, and eats links courses or bad conditions for lunch... And I KNOW for a fact that the CRZ460 is an absolute perfect match with the Royal Dec, easy to launch, carries for days, but gives you decent run IF you get the specs right, and just cannot miss the fairway.... This head and shaft must have been designed just for each other because they just FEEL correct together.... This head def demands a lighter shaft to do what it's designed to do and I highly recommend doing just that, and for me none are better than Royal Dec, if you wanna mess around with launch, flight, and feel, try out different head lofts and shaft flexes, I thnk that's a better way to get the desired performance outta this club rather than putting a heavier more demanding shaft in it... Again, I'm sure it would perform excellently if you did go for a heavier shaft, but I just don't think the club would feel or perform as well as it possibly could... If I had to choose between the two choices you mentioned though, I would prob take the 435/Royal Dec setup over the 460/80 LS, I think the 435 would adapt better to a lightweight, more active shaft then the 460 would to a heavier, stiffer shaft.... And I also think the Royal Dec is designed perfectly and might be a more versatile shaft... Just my opinions and what I would prefer and what works for me, you may prefer something totally different or feel a totally different way... Def would love to see how one of those combos go for you if you decide to pick it up... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 The opposite, 80LS in the 435 and Royal Dec in the 460, the 435 is meant to be a monster of a club, demanding in the extreme, but rewarding when your consistent and can make the beast work for you, if you wanna put it on auto pilot a bit more then try dropping a half flex in the 80LS, I really think Crazy(and Jbeam) build there athlete model heads to work best with the heavier, stouter shafts, more of a tour type setup, you def could toss a lighter simpler shaft in this head and it would still prob work great and deliver monster distance, but i just don't think the club would feel or play as it's designed to with a lightweight shaft. I personally just see this head and think it needs to be a low launch, big run type club that doesn't get high in the air at all, but handles anything you throw at it, and eats links courses or bad conditions for lunch... And I KNOW for a fact that the CRZ460 is an absolute perfect match with the Royal Dec, easy to launch, carries for days, but gives you decent run IF you get the specs right, and just cannot miss the fairway.... This head and shaft must have been designed just for each other because they just FEEL correct together.... This head def demands a lighter shaft to do what it's designed to do and I highly recommend doing just that, and for me none are better than Royal Dec, if you wanna mess around with launch, flight, and feel, try out different head lofts and shaft flexes, I thnk that's a better way to get the desired performance outta this club rather than putting a heavier more demanding shaft in it... Again, I'm sure it would perform excellently if you did go for a heavier shaft, but I just don't think the club would feel or perform as well as it possibly could... If I had to choose between the two choices you mentioned though, I would prob take the 435/Royal Dec setup over the 460/80 LS, I think the 435 would adapt better to a lightweight, more active shaft then the 460 would to a heavier, stiffer shaft.... And I also think the Royal Dec is designed perfectly and might be a more versatile shaft... Just my opinions and what I would prefer and what works for me, you may prefer something totally different or feel a totally different way... Def would love to see how one of those combos go for you if you decide to pick it up... J. Thanks a lot J Good info right here. Yeah, I saw your comments on the RD/460 combo and got interested. The reason I complicate matters is that I usually hit the ball quite high as it is, and dont get much roll, but carry it quite far. So, lower lofted heads, and usually the "tour" version is what I go for, coupled with a bit heavier shafts in the 70 gram range. Recently I have tried several lighter shafted drivers and have gotten some very good results, and that has gotten me to think I want a "friendlier" driver, either headwise or shaftwise, hence thinking up these combos of easy head/bit tougher shaft vs low launch head/lighter shaft to get to some sort of "ultimate" compromise, ha ha. But, of course, since the RD now comes in XX stiff versions even, I guess there has been some sort of demand out there for a stouter RD shaft to go with the 460 head..Or maybe a slightly stouter lower torque shaft like the CB46 to go with the 460? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkats Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Excellent stuff Stew. Tell me, would you prefer a CRZ 435II with say, a Royal Decoration, To get a bit of friendliness and a slightly higher launch with this low-launch head. OR say, a CRZ 460 with a low launch shaft like a LS 80 or similar to get the flight down just a smidge with this high launch head to enhance roll out? Id like to see that comparison. I've been thinking of the 435II/RD combo also. Supposedly the RD shaft has caught on with long drivers, so I would think they are pairing it with the 435II head. Of course it has to fit your swing. I have a decent swing speed but don't generate a ton of spin. So for me I thought this combo would be a good match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCMB Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 It comes down a lot to what your looking for as well, I normally have a certain feel and trajectory in mind when I'm looking for a driver, when I'm looking at a smaller more compact "tour" type head I'm usually looking for a very strong feel from the shaft and the club in general that just takes whatever i throw at it and begs for more, as well as a lower trajectory, something that I can control and does well no matter what course I'm playing or conditions, and what accomplishes that for me is a heavier, sturdier shaft..... For a larger easy launch head, I'm looking for max carry, a lot of kick from the shaft, a mid to high trajectory, And something that doesn't require as much effort to swing, and I have found a lighter weight shaft does those things best.... In the end though, my opinion on matching "tour" type heads with heavier shafts and larger heads with lightweight shafts comes down to feel more than anything else, i put a setup together based on the feel I believe that club head was designed for... I'm certain different setups may perform equally as well, some possibly better for other people, but I know that for me personally, I would create optimal performance, and the feel I'm looking for in those two club heads with the setups I mentioned in my first post.... Hope this helps, but def take mine, or anyone elses, opinions with a grain of salt, as we are all looking for different things from our clubs, and prefer different things as far as feel, performance, and aesthetics... So try what you like, try a lot of different setups if you can, respect other peoples opinions, value them if you like, but def don't base your choice in clubs solely, or largely on how others feel about them.... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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