December 14, 201113 yr I like soft in irons, I like a bit of power crisp Sound without being tooloud with the driver.
December 15, 201113 yr Haven't come across many that said Yamaha drivers are not good feeling. Well, can't say anything about the 2008 Model. But my 2010 V201 sure is soft and muted. Love the feeling of that driver.
December 15, 201113 yr For me it's the Epon 460ZR or Technity. That said I can't get away from the Ryoma.
December 16, 201113 yr Pete Maybe the yonex ezone? Not sure how the 420 and 460 are but the 380 sounded/felt persimmon. I'd like to try the 420 as the 380 didn't quite fit my eye.
December 16, 201113 yr yea. and the jbeams are extrememly muted and dull sounding/feeling but the ball goes miles.
December 16, 201113 yr Like T said feel is very subjective. Soft to me feels very different than mute. For my taste buds mute can also be firm. how about metallic, crunchy, tink, pop, hollow. With so many designs and materials it get's rather confusing very fast. I don't consider the Ryoma uber soft like the 460ZR but I do sense a metallic yet muted sensation to it.
December 16, 201113 yr the 460 zr is marchmallow soft, like the ball gets compressed before being slung. hard to describe its like hitting a rubberized ball, sound is not a loud pop more of a metallic thud. now the jbeams for me were muted, very muted but chris is right its not soft. actually crispy. imagine a hollow dense feeling tin can that has cotton inside to mask the sound. it muted but should feel like a nike sasquatch minus the annoying sound.
December 19, 201113 yr totally agree on the 460zr, that driver really absorbed the ball and sent it out there.....I didnt get my longest drives with it but it definitely was a joy to hit and very forgiving !
December 19, 201113 yr totally agree on the 460zr, that driver really absorbed the ball and sent it out there.....I didnt get my longest drives with it but it definitely was a joy to hit and very forgiving ! on my list of equipment regrets. should not have sold it.
December 20, 201113 yr Don't know anything about the 460zr, what year? 2006 check out that face! Edited December 20, 201113 yr by Spoon
December 20, 201113 yr If my Kamui Ray could only feel and sound like the epon 460zr, then i would have the ultimate driver !!! As for now i have to settle for distance forgiveness and the perfect trajectory ! ( hehe maybe the ryoma or Yamaha will be perfect )
December 20, 201113 yr If my Kamui Ray could only feel and sound like the epon 460zr, then i would have the ultimate driver !!! As for now i have to settle for distance forgiveness and the perfect trajectory ! ( hehe maybe the ryoma or Yamaha will be perfect ) honestly there is nothing perfect. no matter what you get there will always be something longer and better:) be happy with what you have.
December 20, 201113 yr honestly there is nothing perfect. no matter what you get there will always be something longer and better:) be happy with what you have. Haha C, yea happy..for a while then the vicious cycle starts over again.
December 20, 201113 yr Played my AF152 w/Crazy LY-02 yesterday. Completely different feel, sound, everything compared to the Ryoma. Not nearly as muted. Louder, not loud but any sound is louder than the Ryoma. Felt really soft to me. I'd forgotten how nice a combo this is.
December 23, 201113 yr Author Well I guess I gave up on the Yamaha too soon. I traded it to Doc for a sweet Onoff stand bag, I hit the Yamaha with a house of forged shaft in it and was very impressed. Still a firm face but it felt and sounded good and the flight was great. I'm going to find a Epon head to try next.
January 30, 201213 yr I have the Yonex 380 right now and it has a sweet feel to it. It is soft but I still can tell when I hit the center of the clubface. Great driver. i hope to keep this one as it has the potential to be a beast in dry conditions. Now if you want max carry with little roll then stay away from this one. Mid launch is the best i can do but the rollout is great and should be even better when it warms up here in Ky.
February 2, 201213 yr Played my AF152 w/Crazy LY-02 yesterday. Completely different feel, sound, everything compared to the Ryoma. Not nearly as muted. Louder, not loud but any sound is louder than the Ryoma. Felt really soft to me. I'd forgotten how nice a combo this is. Hmmm, we seem to have the same drivers/ shaft combo. Cracked my Ryoma ( on cb46 shaft ) last week & had to send i back to be replaced. So been using my ' old ' epon AF 102 on LY. I forget how sweet ths thing is to hit - solid sound, like the old titliest, but felt so soft........almost didnt think it could go that far. Still, the eopn is 20-25 yards shorter than my ryoma. Edited February 2, 201213 yr by Chanaa
February 2, 201213 yr I agree with idrive on the Epon 152. That is the closest I have found to the 460ZR so far. If you like mute the Yonex 380 feels excellent. Jbeam's are also firm great feel as well.
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