Mjr. D Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 What, typically, will give the best, softest, most pure feel out of the three types of clubs. I don't want to hear about "well you can't say... design plays a huge role, etc". Typically. Which style of club will give the best feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Generally speaking it will be the iron with the most mass behind the sweet spot. There is also the mental aspect, for some people I believe the pureness of the feel is directly related to the iron's difficulty of actually hitting it pure. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 And a blade typically has the most mass behind the sweet spot, correct?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Probably a muscleback moreso than a true blade. I think one of the reasons an onoff feels so soft is the dense tungsten sole. But yeah in traditional type clubs a muscleback should exhibit the purest feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neova Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 My Callaway X-Prototype Muscle Back Blade feels very soft when I mange to hit the penny sized sweet spot, and feels just as good as the TC-930FG cavity back that I've tested (and ordered). I terms of feel (when hit on the sweetspot), i don't think blade, muscleback, or cavity will differ much if they are made from the similar material and forging / casting. Since we aren't Iron byron, we are most likely going to mis**t most of our shots, so then we might attribute "forgiveness" from the muscle back and cavity as having better "feel" than the blade. Thanks from my experience anyways... Golf is a game of mistakes, so less of it the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well IMO best and most pure is separate from softest. Miura small blades to me are the "best" and "purest" feeling clubs I've hit. Very small and dense with a lot of meat behind the ball. Softest, I don't know. Epon 302's are about as soft as any club I've hit, so I think cavities can be as soft as anything. I've hit some clubs that are really soft, but also hollow-feeling. So soft and best and purest are really at least 2 and maybe 3 questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGolf Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 For me the best feeling irons are Yururi flatback raw. The raw finish just seem to let the ball stick onto the face a little longer and the feel is not buttery soft, like Epon 502. Only thing I don't like about them is the leading edge is too sharp and tends to dig on wet fairway. My current gamer is Miura baby blades and their sole grind are more flexible to play in any condition and Miuramaniac explain it perfectly with the amount of meat behind the ball gives it a very good firm feel..... I've play On/Off forged in the past and they're very good but I remember them more firm and clickly. Maybe the model I played was the older model (2 yeas back) and design have since change then.... My vote if you like solid feeling irons - Miura baby blades. and if a softer and yet solid feeling irons - Yururi Flatback in raw finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 My Yururi wedges are a sheer joy to hit. There have to be some balls at the range with flat spots on them from when I was hitting them the other day. They'll peel a range ball like a potato. I'd love to try the irons sometime. I wanted a set pretty bad but sometimes the voice of reason speaks and reminds me I'm not good enough to play those when it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGolf Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah forgot to mention, those Yururi in raw finish are ball eaters.... !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 blades for sure. i guess what matt said is true as well as the influence of the mind on feel is very powerful. the most addicting feeling in golf is puring a long iron blade of the tee. its purrfect! 300+ yard drives will never feel as good as the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ya best feeling clubs for me are the 302s and Onoff Forged. 301s were right there too. Mizuno MP-37 and Miura MB-5003... all among the best I've tried. People often overlook the effect grips and balls have on feel, too. Shafts definitely, head, definitely, but ball and grip play a big part, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Feel is subjective and personal. Soft for one person may not be a soft for another. The best feel will come from the iron you can strike the most consistently in the sweet spot. Feel is affected by numerous factors, material of the iron, design of the iron, even the grind of the iron which affects the way the iron interacts with the ground and its ability to get under the ball, and very much affecting the feel will be shaft and then finally the ability to hit the sweet spot. Things like ball, grip and even course condition will play an effect as well. Many people find the ONOFF Forged very soft, and I think it has a lot going for it when it comes to material, design, and a big easy sweet spot to hit. A blade "probably" is the most pure as long as you can strike it well... it would be the softest club for a scratch golfer perhaps but it won't be for a high handicapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mygreenaliem Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well IMO best and most pure is separate from softest. Miura small blades to me are the "best" and "purest" feeling clubs I've hit. Very small and dense with a lot of meat behind the ball. Softest, I don't know. Epon 302's are about as soft as any club I've hit, so I think cavities can be as soft as anything. I've hit some clubs that are really soft, but also hollow-feeling. So soft and best and purest are really at least 2 and maybe 3 questions. Have to agree with you on blades giving purest/best feeling - when it happens its an incredible feeling and sound. For me my Miuras and now the Crazy Ltd's give the purest feeling I have ever experienced. Epons were the softest for sure, Miuras and yamahas hardest, crazy in between (and perfect for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Feel is subjective and personal. Soft for one person may not be a soft for another. The best feel will come from the iron you can strike the most consistently in the sweet spot. Feel is affected by numerous factors, material of the iron, design of the iron, even the grind of the iron which affects the way the iron interacts with the ground and its ability to get under the ball, and very much affecting the feel will be shaft and then finally the ability to hit the sweet spot. Things like ball, grip and even course condition will play an effect as well. Many people find the ONOFF Forged very soft, and I think it has a lot going for it when it comes to material, design, and a big easy sweet spot to hit. A blade "probably" is the most pure as long as you can strike it well... it would be the softest club for a scratch golfer perhaps but it won't be for a high handicapper. That's about as good as it gets for an explanation. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 There is a lot of truth to the club you hit the center of being the softest. If you could always hit the center then I would think a muscle back made of S20C with a HM carbon or Nippon shaft would be tops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoutout33 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Feel is subjective and personal. Soft for one person may not be a soft for another. The best feel will come from the iron you can strike the most consistently in the sweet spot. Feel is affected by numerous factors, material of the iron, design of the iron, even the grind of the iron which affects the way the iron interacts with the ground and its ability to get under the ball, and very much affecting the feel will be shaft and then finally the ability to hit the sweet spot. Things like ball, grip and even course condition will play an effect as well. Many people find the ONOFF Forged very soft, and I think it has a lot going for it when it comes to material, design, and a big easy sweet spot to hit. A blade "probably" is the most pure as long as you can strike it well... it would be the softest club for a scratch golfer perhaps but it won't be for a high handicapper. Man I'm glade this question came up. :) I'll have to second goccin's response as well. For me, I like blades. Recently got fitted with Mizuno's system, which I love by the way, and I realized something: Whatever clubs you have the most confidence hitting, that's what you should hit....period! When I was getting fitted the owner of the store asked me the following questions: 1. What was my handicap? (Don't have one 'cause I haven't played a round of golf since high school golf team.) 2. What clubs do I use now? (Don't have any 'cause I'm getting back into the game.) From there, he looked at me cockeyed, and started me off with one of Mizuno's "game improvement" mallets, and I responded by saying, "I'm used to blades. I can't hit this, it's too big". Well, he made me hit and after my three critical swings need to find my DNA, the system said I had a swing speed of a senior flex. -_- Needless to say, by the time we found the shafts that work for me, I'm hitting both the MP-59 and MP-69 pure as hell and dead center. Had the impact tape to prove it too. ' Had him in disbelief and me saying, "I told you so." He can't even give me my true DNA, because he said that my swing was getting faster as I started to hit the irons I wanted to hit. So now, he wants to continue to work with me, to get the most potential out of my swing, and then he'd try the analyzer again. Here's the kicker though. Even after I proved that I could hit the MP-69's on point, he still wanted me to go with the MP-59's?!?!?!?!?! WTF? His explanation was, that we were in the perfect environment (indoor range) and I may not be as consistent when I go out on the course. Anywho, my whole point to this, if you feel that blades will feel best to you, hit them. If it's cavity backs, hit them. If it's a game improvement mallet, hit them. When I go see him again, I am going to tell him I want the MP-69's. If he plans on working with me that's what I want to hit and its my money I'm spending, so there. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Funny you mention that. I recently went thru a very comprehensive shaft fitting and lo and behold I was able to hit EVERYTHING better. Shockingly we went shorter on length when I have always played a bit over standard. (I am 6' in socks). Never made such good contact since. But yeah...find a shaft then pick the head you like to look at bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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