reapl Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hey guys, Yesterday I´ve been to a golf fair in Germany. So among all these "big brands" there was a small tent in the very last corner. OnOff... so that was where I definitely had to go, screw all the Nike, Callaway, TaylorMade, whatevers. First of all thank you to Krafft Angerer from OnOff Europe, it was a pleasure to meet you. For sure one of the best guys I met in the golf industry so far. So we were talking JDM, how OnOff tries to get into the European market and all that stuff. They really have some beautiful clubs, but all you guys already know. Was hitting some balls with the black irons, really really good, can´t complain about anything. In comparison to my AF-302´s they are pretty much the same size and might feel a tad softer. Overall an iron I would put into play without hesitation. So then he talks about their Roddio shafts and how much knowledge went into their construction. He told me to hit and graphite shaft in the black irons. "Mate, I´m not a grandpa yet, even if I sometimes feel like it" were my thoughts. Yeah, why not... just hit some balls and tell him you are a real man who plays steel shafts. ;) Ok, so off to the hitting bay... weight and balance feels great, definitely not your standard 50g graphite noodle. So, first ball... BOOOOM... second ball ... CRACK ... and this went on and on. Never git an irons shaft that had such an amazing feeling at impact. Really can´t describe it, but most of you might already have hit an high end graphite shaft in irons, so you know what I´m talking about. I went to OnOff for 2 or 3 more times that day to hit some shots with the iron again and this outstanding feeling just wouldn´t go away. DAMN! I never thought there was something better feeling out there than my 302´s with Modus 3. OnOff really has me with this combo. Oh well, I talked all the drive home to my friend about that iron and the Roddios, thinking of it all night long. Why do golf clubs do this to you?! When I got home, I immediately turned on the Laptop to look for some prices for Roddio Pentacross shafts only. Really would like to keep my 302´s, but who knows. So, where to find better equipment then on TSG? So yeah, they have ´em... $999 ... BOOM ... same feeling while hitting the shafts, just the other way round. ;) Oh, not to mention 1000 bucks only gets you 5-PW, I need 3-PW so thats another 300.... you are killing me. :D Sorry for the long talk before my real question, just had to share my experience with other JDM gear fanatics. Is there anything out there, that will come close in feel to these shaft? Maybe the Steelfibers? Anything a little more affordable? Krafft told me a 3-PW set of OnOff blacks will be around 2000 Euros, so that it what you would expect from JDM gear, I´m fine with that. But my head still went "CRACK, BOOM, POW" and I really can´t remember if that included the Roddios, or if it was for steel shafts only and the Roddios will be a big upcharge. I´ll try to find out, though. Oh, forgot to say, OnOff had some quite unique looking bags, you won´t find anything similar over here. I´m getting one 100%. Thank you for reading and the ones who just jumped to the bolded question.. I do understand you, all these JDM gear praises get boring, no? ;) Cheers, Jan P.S. Krafft, if you read this: I feel for you, not joining your boss on the Japan golf fair this weekend, but I´m happy we met in Hamburg! I´ll give you a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I haven't gamed my i-10's yet, so I know who to come to if I need to pass them on! Did you try the s flex or SX flex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 By the way, I haven't seen these 'black' irons that you mention. Are they definitely onoffs? RIduffer may chime in about something similar to the i-10's, as he's played lots of high-end graphite shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Antz is selling a set of Labospec OnOff forged/I-10 on BST now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reapl Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I haven't gamed my i-10's yet, so I know who to come to if I need to pass them on! Did you try the s flex or SX flex? I did hit the S flex, X would be too much for me. Which ones do you have? By the way, I haven't seen these 'black' irons that you mention. Are they definitely onoffs? RIduffer may chime in about something similar to the i-10's, as he's played lots of high-end graphite shafts. They were OnOff, for sure. Just realized that they maybe renamed some stuff for the European market. "Black" is supposed to be their players line, Type-S woods and the forged irons and "Red" are the more forgiving clubs. So the irons I hit were the OnOff forged, did hit the 2012 and 2013, the Pentacross was actually installed in a 2012 6-iron. Antz is selling a set of Labospec OnOff forged/I-10 on BST now. Thank you, I saw that set as well. They are very nice, but I need 3-PW irons and no soft stepping. If I´m going to spend that big coin, I would need something that really fits me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykato Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Any pics of the bags? carry baqs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reapl Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 You can find the bags here: http://onoff-golf.eu/bags.html The carry bags are really cool as well, but I´m staying with my trusty Ping there. I will get one of the cart bags, most likely the "Unisex" in black. They look fantastic and really different than anything else over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I played several rounds with the Roddio-i10 SX with '09 ONOFF heads before moving the shafts on to Ian-500. They are most similar to the Crazy CBI EVO II. You can definitely feel them load and release. Trajectory is on the higher side compared to the Tour Attas, but I also attribute much of that to the head. With the Roddio I felt I could go after it and lay off based on the shot I was trying to hit. Because of the head I had issues with trajectory control but considering what the i8s do in the FairWay Wings UT I believe lower flight is very possible. Unfortunately, getting Roddio shafts into iron heads has proven to be challenging for me and ONOFF seems to be the most likely candidate. I just can't bring myself to order a set that of them as they do not align with my preferred look at address and ball flight.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reapl Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks, RIduffer. Do you have any comparison to the Steelfiber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 When I tried the Aerotechs in a fitting session I could not keep the ball flight down in a Miura BB head. Admittedly it was not the 125s so flight might be different there, but they felt good and had gotten decent numbers out of them. I ended up going with a set of Fuji Rombax after that fitting. I am a fan of the UST IS series and hoping the Recoils help lower the launch on the Personals some. Based on other's findings comparing the Aeros with the Recoils, and assuming you are OK with price of graphite irons I would go graphite over Aero. As an aside, depending on the head you are intending and SS I have a set of the IS, combo of 980S hard stepped and tipped for 3-6 and 990X 7-W, that were pulled from my Personals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Always the salesman...... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I have gear and the wife doesn't want it laying around. She is OK with clubs in rotation, but if it can't be hit it needs to find an alternate home… Look how you benefitted from the "salesmanship"… :) Edited February 17, 2013 by RIduffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 As RIduffer said, I have the SX. Compared to Quadra iron shafts I've played, the Roddio's are a little lower (7i at the range), feel a tad firmer off the face (probably the because of the different iron heads)and are a little shorter in distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Hahahahahaha, only joking Steve. Who knows, I may benefit more in the near future from your generosity. Edited February 17, 2013 by Ian-500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'm looking forward to the Fujikura MCI Carbon + Steel shafts. Also I cant wait to get back to install my Recoils in the George Spirits Mono 3d Forged Irons. I hit a demo iron with the S200, even with that shaft they feel so pure and soft reminiscent of the G-Field NC-1's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reapl Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 thank your for your opinions and offers, guys. Unfortunately I´m really not the hard swinger that could comfortably handle X shafts. I will have to go with something stiff. I would have taken the Roddios right as they are if it wasn´t for the $1300 price tag, even the 10% off will still not make it affordable at the moment. I was hoping to get some opinions on similar feeling shafts, or maybe get a used set at a good price. Too bad RIduffer has the SX ones, I really wouldn´t buy them without hitting them first and see if I can handle them. Maybe I should make a trip to the UK, right? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 You're more than welcome to come and try them out......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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