604_skyline Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 hope this is not over stepping any bounds, but which one, if you could only have one driver the rest of the year? or should I be looking at something from jbeam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) are we trying to answer this for you or for our own games? if for you, what are your needs, what's your swing speed, how proficient are you with the driver, etc? Edited March 16, 2013 by chiromikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
604_skyline Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 swing speed 110mph, quick-ish tempo (think nick price), driver is strong suit, play or have recently played tourstage j340, titleist 983E tour head, tourstage p02-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 swing speed 110mph, quick-ish tempo (think nick price), driver is strong suit, play or have recently played tourstage j340, titleist 983E tour head, tourstage p02-6 Zero for feel and you like a slightly larger head. S-Yard for small head and über control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmieboi Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Don't know about the S-Yard, but I have the Zero. Zero is a very very not forgiving head and quite difficult to launch (even it's 10 degree). The feel on the head is very nice, but now i'm not gaming it anymore. Hard to get a consistent hit on this head. I swing around 125mph and still find this head hard to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops1967 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 hope this is not over stepping any bounds, but which one, if you could only have one driver the rest of the year? or should I be looking at something from jbeam? or you should be looking at Mizuno 611, especially if prone to too much right to left ball flight. If you are a very strong player, or naturally have a high launch angle, then consider the Zero... but it is very, very low spin - and can be far too low spin for many/some golfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would say the Zero was certainly not made for the mainstream player. I don't think anyone who doesn't most always hit the sweet spot (unforgiving), have a very high swing speed, should even be considering this head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Don't know about the S-Yard, but I have the Zero. Zero is a very very not forgiving head and quite difficult to launch (even it's 10 degree). The feel on the head is very nice, but now i'm not gaming it anymore. Hard to get a consistent hit on this head. I swing around 125mph and still find this head hard to play. I find the exact opposite, I swing no where near 125mph. I find zero is pretty easy to play with. Maybe come down a flex? I shafted it with 519 75s and found it difficult to get consistency. Then bb6s, better. Now diamana X even better. Come down a flex and you start loving the zero again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would say the Zero was certainly not made for the mainstream player. I don't think anyone who doesn't most always hit the sweet spot (unforgiving), have a very high swing speed, should even be considering this head. I would second that...never played with a driver that was so brutally unforgiving and driving is my strong suit. Played it with a bunch of shafts and still no love. Low flying bullets then way right, way left, short and uninspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukok Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I was at the range today (heavy rain and wind against) and the Zero was just superb, my swing is nowhere near 125 mph (and to be honest not many peoples are) but the feel, distance and forgiveness of this club for me is superb. I think the 105 mph speed is a marketing ploy as the man in the next bay was trying out the new Nike driver but was not happy, I gave him mine and although he uses R shafts he was able to hit really nice shots just a wee bit shorter than the Nike, the shot shape was far superior and he was surprised how soft it felt. He gave me the Nike to hit, not good, not good at all. I was thinking about getting the S-Yard but cannot think of any good reasons why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleUK Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I was at the range today (heavy rain and wind against) and the Zero was just superb, my swing is nowhere near 125 mph (and to be honest not many peoples are) but the feel, distance and forgiveness of this club for me is superb. I think the 105 mph speed is a marketing ploy as the man in the next bay was trying out the new Nike driver but was not happy, I gave him mine and although he uses R shafts he was able to hit really nice shots just a wee bit shorter than the Nike, the shot shape was far superior and he was surprised how soft it felt. He gave me the Nike to hit, not good, not good at all. I was thinking about getting the S-Yard but cannot think of any good reasons why. Cos the S-yard is amazing... honest Gov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukok Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Yes, every JDM club is amazing, until the next one comes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
604_skyline Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I much prefer the pear shaped head shape, I know it maybe just the pics but the s-yard/jbeam and crazy heads just look too round to me, is it just my eyes? that is why I am leaning towards the zero... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops1967 Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 The S-Yard t388 and the Mizuno 611 are a good pear shape - the others, I couldn't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 The percentage of customers that went ZERO and sold it right away is pretty high. Only a couple of guys keep it around and its still not as a daily gamer. T.388 on the other hand we have customers who are on their second head and wouldn't give it up for anything. I just happen to be in that same boat as well. It's much more user friendly and get's loads of roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukok Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) The percentage of customers that went ZERO and sold it right away is pretty high. Only a couple of guys keep it around and its still not as a daily gamer. T.388 on the other hand we have customers who are on their second head and wouldn't give it up for anything. I just happen to be in that same boat as well. It's much more user friendly and get's loads of roll. Ok, send me a demo, if its better than the Zero (for me), I will buy it and post a glowing review, if not, I will send it back. The Zero, is my keeper and daily gamer, so is this the exception that proves the rule? Balls in your court. Edited March 18, 2013 by ukok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I much prefer the pear shaped head shape, I know it maybe just the pics but the s-yard/jbeam and crazy heads just look too round to me, is it just my eyes? that is why I am leaning towards the zero... T.388 is quite the pear shape and small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Ok, send me a demo, if its better than the Zero (for me), I will buy it and post a glowing review, if not, I will send it back. The Zero, is my keeper and daily gamer, so is this the exception that proves the rule? Balls in your court. No doubt an exception to every rule. I wish I was the exception along with you. Unfortunately I don't have the swing speed for it, but then they weren't making it for guys like me. Just like the AF103 is. What shaft are you playing in it? Edited March 21, 2013 by idrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
604_skyline Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 T. Thanks for the pic, the head is just about perfect upon further look, minus the matte finish(i am sure i am in the minority on this one) I just would wish for a nice simple gloss black head, I guess it could not be painted could it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 T. Thanks for the pic, the head is just about perfect upon further look, minus the matte finish(i am sure i am in the minority on this one) I just would wish for a nice simple gloss black head, I guess it could not be painted could it? You could definitely get the head repainted, but the matte finish is actually quite nice in person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 i like the matt finish actually. no glare.no fuss. looks good even tho this is pear shaped and a kinda horizontal long elongate horse shape face. which normally i hate in a driver. this gets to the middle of the ball a lot more than i thought it wud. maybe bec the head is so small overall. i had a great session with it yesterday. flight is lower than my jbeam 435 and similar to the zero. got htis out the midle more than the zero. but whn u get the zer ojust right its the best there is. best ive ever hit. just dont like its face shape. i wish it was a bit more like the kamui pro shape. if it was oh brother therd be all my drivers on BST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Anyone try the Jbeam 435R? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lousifers Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Tae has 435R. He told me it's about the same distance as 435 but more forgiveness but let's hear directly from him. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Tae has 435R. He told me it's about the same distance as 435 but more forgiveness but let's hear directly from him. Mark Thats what I'm looking for. Last week I took out the Jbeam 425 Tour I shafted with a BB-6 stiff, It was less forgiving than the T.388 but to my surprise it was also straighter with equal to more roll which are the two main things I like about the SYD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukok Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thats what I'm looking for. Last week I took out the Jbeam 425 Tour I shafted with a BB-6 stiff, It was less forgiving than the T.388 but to my surprise it was also straighter with equal to more roll which are the two main things I like about the SYD. Does this mean your S-Yard, will be on the BST forum together with the umpteen other ones there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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