Calvin Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 If the 80T carbon is superior to boron, why do Waccine or Basileus Z still adopt boron in their high end shaft? I've learned that the boron has some shortcomings. Have them been resolved already? There are two typical boron shafts: 1. High torque: 4.5~6.0 like Waccine and Godis. 2. Low torque: Under 3.0 like PNOEZ I asked people who had tried both. The results were positive. The low torque PX-1 5001 does not feel stiff at all. Waccine GR-55 is unlike some high torque model. The side-spin is well under controlled. Both have very amazing performance. It's great to learn some good stuffs out there, but for an end user, this could mean more confusion aroused. Well! As always, ~ Coin-throwing time! No! Better hear you guys opinion first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I like boron shafts have both stinger and the crazy boron. They are very stable and shaft kinda adapts to ehatever you throw At it.. They can hang with all the 80t shafts.. I am not technical in my Explanations i leave that to stew. H has extensive experience with With boron.. Hes part boron to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I like boron shafts have both stinger and the crazy boron. They are very stable and shaft kinda adapts to ehatever you throw At it.. They can hang with all the 80t shafts.. I am not technical in my Explanations i leave that to stew. H has extensive experience with With boron.. Hes part boron to be honest. Come on, you've read Stew's posts. He most definitely bore off.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 well i like being boring. i think they are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I guess the "shortcomings" are mainly the high price of Boron, the difficulty of handling it, (it's a much more complicated material to work with apparently) and the fact it's not readily available in large quantities. It's rare, expensive, difficult to make, and difficult to work with from what I've gathered. Otherwise, the properties of Boron seem to be perfect for shaft making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I guess the "shortcomings" are mainly the high price of Boron, the difficulty of handling it, (it's a much more complicated material to work with apparently) and the fact it's not readily available in large quantities. It's rare, expensive, difficult to make, and difficult to work with from what I've gathered. Otherwise, the properties of Boron seem to be perfect for shaft making. Yep! It is pricy (most of them). There're few cheaper version boron shafts and get the job done well. Just have not seen too much people talk about it at the forum. There is even a nano boron shaft at a moderate price. Don't know how does it compare to nano carbon. Hope we can see more of these at TSG's store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Yep! It is pricy (most of them). There're few cheaper version boron shafts and get the job done well. Just have not seen too much people talk about it at the forum. There is even a nano boron shaft at a moderate price. Don't know how does it compare to nano carbon. Hope we can see more of these at TSG's store. If the shaft is full Boron it's going to cost a lot. If they throw in some fancy words like Nano and bring the price down I would call that a red flag. We also need to be aware how much of the high end carbon is being used. Many shafts may put some 50T in the tip and call it a 50T shaft that sells for half of what a the full length 50T shaft would sell for. Lots of word games going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Yes, there are lots of marketing tricks out there. Thanks all staffs of TSG and guys in this forum for helping to straighten things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) ok................ no techicalaities here, just results i was at the range last night in perfect conditions. i had my s-yard-stinger jbeam 435-diamana X 70s jbeam 425 with roddio shingo m6 x these will be 3 of my top 5 clubs this season the boron stinge from diamana in stiff........... i normally play this in X.. in the syard is absolutely mint. it looses nothing........... to the othe rshafts here. its just higher. when i tee the ball slightyl lower i got a ton of run. its the most accurate as well.. is boron dead???? if anyone says it is. they are a liar or dont have one, and havbt hit one end of chat!!!!! Edited April 4, 2013 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLL33 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Anyone hear of Hiskei shafts? Know anything about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Anyone hear of Hiskei shafts? Know anything about them? How about Godis 502？Has anyone heard of this？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 ok................ no techicalaities here, just results i was at the range last night in perfect conditions. i had my s-yard-stinger jbeam 435-diamana X 70s jbeam 425 with roddio shingo m6 x these will be 3 of my top 5 clubs this season the boron stinge from diamana in stiff........... i normally play this in X.. in the syard is absolutely mint. it looses nothing........... to the othe rshafts here. its just higher. when i tee the ball slightyl lower i got a ton of run. its the most accurate as well.. is boron dead???? if anyone says it is. they are a liar or dont have one, and havbt hit one end of chat!!!!! I read this " FULL BORON VS 80T" posted long time ago at the forum. You guys can have a look. I'm just wondering anything have changed after these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I have a full 80T (well almost diamana X) going in one head and stinger boron in another and will give them a fair run down soon. May even swap them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 matt try them both in the s-yard. ull seee teeth in yr smile u didnrt know u had. put the dia X in it first.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I have a full 80T (well almost diamana X) going in one head and stinger boron in another and will give them a fair run down soon. May even swap them. I'm looking forward to see the result. Thanks, Pal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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