Shaft weight/flex for wedges

[Ian-500]

I need some advice on whether to play heavier, same or lighter shafts than my irons. And do any of you play different flex in your wedges compared to your irons. Let me know your reasons and the pros/cons.

Thanks.

Ian.

[dreamingkid]

You have same wedge setup as I do. I still used my old Mizuno MP t-10s. I increased the swing weight on my wedges to have better feel for short swings/chipping and better turf interaction. For me, going little heavier helps me to feel the bottom of the swing so that I can have better contact with the ball. A lighter weight didn't really help me with it. I have D2 in my irons and D4 on my wedged. and Nippon Modus WV. Usually, if the shaft is heavier, the flex gets stiffer.

[JayDM]

Its up to you really, there isn't really one method that's better than others. Some people keep there iron and wedge shafts consistent for uniform feel throughout, others go for heavier wedge shafts with a slightly lighter flex for feel, others go slightly heavier and stiffer as they feel it increases consistency... It's all personal preference, I've tried almost every conceivable way to set up my iron/wedge shafts and I've found very little performance difference either way as long as the shafts in my wedges can hit my desired SW's and the clubs are built to my specs, other than that I would say I very slightly prefer to have my wedges play 1/3-1/2 flex softer than my irons.... The iron shaft you choose has a lot to do with it as well, some shafts are just horrid in wedges and that would be a pretty big deciding factor as far as weather or not I stick with the same shaft in my irons and wedges.

[supo]

after tyring every possible manifestation of wedge weight ,flex, length, over the last cpl of years, ive pretty much settled on a cpl of things.

the lob wedge i use from 30 yards and in has NS 950s and a thin grip. in all of them.

that way i can flop the daylights of it and it will stop on a dime.

ive used DG spinners in LW and they spin well but are too heavy for the delicate shots., and modus 3 dont spin.

i found the lighter shafts get me closer more often

the sand wedge (55-57*) ill go heavier like , X100 wedge , DG spinner , NS protos 2f15x , monacco X...., bec ive found this style heavy so u can get down into the ball with a heavy head get it in the air and create very good spin.

lighter shafts for this dont have the same effect they LOB more than spin. and they loose a bit of disperssion form outside 70 odd yards. .

shafts like NS1150 x are good , tight dispersion , they launch VERY high , but kind of fall and plop not grip and bite.

in the aw (49-52*) ill go super heavy . NS protos like the 2s14x.. monacco TX , NS sb blue X tip weighted,. x100 wedge , anything that will be heavy and very thumpy. for going right at the flag. i like a "heavy "shot for this club it lower and its straight.

thers no preconcieved ideal why i did this , but after so so many test variations. this is the style ive got down to and my wedge play has improved a lot over the last cpl of years.

the weight differnce isnt that big over my irons, its def noticeable but i dont think u can go the equivalent to this form say ns 950s....

its in line with the iron weightings,, ut just punchier. like 2 steps up. unti lthe lob which i need as a wand.

best way to find out yr perrfect set up is to shaft 2 diffent 56* i really recoemend trying a DG s300 and a ns950 to see the differences. u will prob find immediuatly u like one "style, weight class" over the other. then go form there.

[JayDM]

"best way to find out yr perrfect set up is to shaft 2 diffent 56* i really recoemend trying a DG s300 and a ns950 to see the differences. u will prob find immediuatly u like one "style, weight class" over the other. then go form there. " +1

[tomcat]

no dedicated shaft like WV then?

[JayDM]

Nothing wrong with them at all, Stew was just suggesting a way to find the right WEIGHT for your wedge shafts. Generally shafts classified as wedge shafts are heavier, if you find that you prefer a heavy wedge shaft then there are a lot of good shafts out there specifically for wedges if you want to go that route, the WV is a good wedge shaft, quite good, spins a lot. The Shimada and Crazy 120 wedge shafts are tops for me as far as shafts labeled wedge shafts go, both are totally neutral and you can hit ALOT of shots with them, both also come in a 110 which is the shaft I use in ALL of my 60*+ wedges, the DG spinner has a very heavy feel and does exactly what the name implies.... spins.... KBS makes a wedge shaft, forget the actual name of it, haven't hit it in a while but it had a very nice feel to it, ball went a bit high for my taste though. As far as regular shafts that are just generally good in wedges, SP Blues are excellent, 1150 GH X are dead stable, bit of a higher launch but excellent dispersion and touch, the 1150 doesn't get talked about to much, but its a performer. Cant really go wrong with DG's whichever flex/weight you prefer, the most boring shaft in golf, but they DO perform consistently. Monaco's are excellent in wedges but they aren't for everyone, if you enjoy them though, they go REALLY well, very easy to move the ball around. I've tried 3 different models of NS protos in wedges, the 2f14 which are SUPERRRR heavy and stiff, the big kahuna of NS pros, and they went quite well, if you can handle the shafts, they'll perform like a champ... if not... well, you'll certainly get a workout.... Also the DP which are my favorite NS protos in irons, so far there also my favorite protos in wedges, they're the proto of the Modus 120 which were only OK in wedges for me, but the DP spun a bit more in wedges than the Modus 120 did but kept the flight very strong and piercing. Also tried the C10 protos which didn't work well for me in wedges, don't spin enough, coupled with the lowest ball flight of any of the protos and they just didn't do it for me in a wedge.

[supo]

yes the wv i forgot tot mention, they are an excelent wedge shaft for spin and feel. but i was just trying to give a weight compariosn not an individual shaftive got the WV in my yamaha blacks, and man those things spin.i really like them, but i prefer them in SW only , they go too much in a 52 for my liking. i think the spinners do as well.

[tomcat]

ok thanks. I'll get my toyo built with MCI. I'll get back to you on that combo ;)

[RIduffer]

I have the MCI in a 58* Zodia head, marvelous combination. I think the MCI shaft plays a little looser to flex than other shafts at least on the normal iron shaft, not sure if there is a "wedge" model.

[tomcat]

I have the MCI in a 58* Zodia head, marvelous combination. I think the MCI shaft plays a little looser to flex than other shafts at least on the normal iron shaft, not sure if there is a "wedge" model.

I know someone else with this combo ;)

[Blader-X]

Take Stew's advice to mind, as he's one who has experimented quite a bit with different shaft/iron combinations. Probably more than any singe human in existence. I always love to hear his take on things.

Here's mine, and like a lot of others its very subjective. I recently had the MCI's installed in my irons and I believe they are the best iron shaft out there (for me). They are vastly superior to steel. I equate them to having a very tight racing suspension in a high performance car. Super tight and super responsive. Zero sloppiness.

So, after loving the MCI's, I decided to have my wedges upgraded with them as well. At first I thought of going heavier and less flex. I have 100X in the irons, but was contemplating 120S in the wedges. After discussing with Gary we decided to go the same 100X that its in the irons. One other thing with it is that I've got 8-iron shafts in the wedges. This allows me to keep the flight down on full wedges as well as be able to really turn it up when I need a few extra yards. I can also play "knock-down" shots and control the trajectory much better with this setup. I also find on that my touch is actually better on the little shots around the green.

Now I've got nothing against the dedicated wedge shafts. But I think the setup I have now, benefits those golfers with experience. By experience I mean golfers who have been around, know they're capabilities and can play a little. I would not compare myself to pros, but I have enjoyed my share of great shots and played long enough to know what works and what doesn't. And it really comes down to every golfer finding it for themselves as well. Back to the dedicated wedge shafts. Those are good and can really help a lot of golfers. My son has the Spinners in his Geotech wedges and this kid has done some really nice things with those. They match up really well for his setup and swing and where he's at right now. The one thing I found with the dedicated wedge shafts was that they would sometimes let me down when I would try and control the trajectory. I find my current setup much more conducive to that. Add to that I do believe they help much more around the greens in controlling the shot.