Hi Folks,

Just got my jbeam back from my fitter with my new Diamana Ilima on it.

SW is D3.5 in 45 inches. After a session at the range, definitly too high for me.

I need it back to 2-2.5.

I removed the weights from the head, thinking they were the same...Just found out they were 6, 4 and 1g...My issue is I did not check where were their initial position...

Any help please? Intuitively, I would say 6 at the toe, 1 outside and 4 in front?

How much weight should I remove to move the SW to D2? 3g? I was thinking removing the 4g. What position then? Or should I get the 3 weights reduced by 1g?

Thanks

Hi Folks, Just got my jbeam back from my fitter with my new Diamana Ilima on it. SW is D3.5 in 45 inches. After a session at the range, definitly too high for me. I need it back to 2-2.5. I removed the weights from the head, thinking they were the same...Just found out they were 6, 4 and 1g...My issue is I did not check where were their initial position... Any help please? Intuitively, I would say 6 at the toe, 1 outside and 4 in front? How much weight should I remove to move the SW to D2? 3g? I was thinking removing the 4g. What position then? Or should I get the 3 weights reduced by 1g? Thanks

HI Tom,

2 grams at the head equals 1 SW so all else staying the same, you need 2-3 grams less for 2.5 and 2 SW respectively.

As for weight placement, more weight on toe is supposed to be fade bias and vice versa for heel. More weight on the back is supposed to help with launch. PLaying around with my weights on the 435, I found the biggest difference in feel to be with adjustment to the back weight. Changes the feel of the head.

Hope I helped some.

HI Tom,

2 grams at the head equals 1 SW so all else staying the same, you need 2-3 grams less for 2.5 and 2 SW respectively.

As for weight placement, more weight on toe is supposed to be fade bias and vice versa for heel. More weight on the back is supposed to help with launch. PLaying around with my weights on the 435, I found the biggest difference in feel to be with adjustment to the back weight. Changes the feel of the head.

Hope I helped some.

thanks mate !

I have 2 435R's and the heaviest weight is in the back second heaviest in the front toe, lightest in the heel.

But off course you are free to move it around you have to move at least 10 grams from toe to heel if you want to change from fade to draw.

Edited September 22, 201311 yr by dodo

If the ballflight as just too high, and you get no joy from changing the weights around, either put a Kai'li in for mid flight or an Ahina for lower flight. :)

Would also suspect that the high launch come from the Ilima. Why did you choose the ilima?

Have the 6 at the rear 1 at the toe & 4 on the heel will give you the lighter swingweight feel & be able to square up quicker/draw bias.

or 6heel 4 rear

Edited September 23, 201311 yr by Eca

thanks guys

will try different set up at the range.

my issue is just the swing weight, not the ball flight. Not high at all, just need to fell the head a bit less during the DS as it screws up my tempo.

Yea good luck. I'm pretty sure a heavy weight on the toe config will feel heavier to swing.

You can also mess with heavier and lighter grips to change the swing weight, also spine can be turned slightly to the inside to help square the face through the hitting zone, I agree a high kick shaft would help with the trajectory.

Good luck and hope you find the killer set up.

To me changing the grip has no impact on the SW. It has an impact on the figure, yes, but not on the feeling ;)

Found a good set up... 6g in the heel, 1g in the toe and nothing at the back...but can't live with this hole...

Are weights from Crazy in the tsg store the same as the original one on the jbeam?

jbeam + diam ilima 60g in stiff...a great killer yes !!

Keep in mind that playing with an open port is illegal according to USGA rules...

Edited September 26, 201311 yr by chiromikey

Glad to hear you got your killer stick, try swinging it once holding the grip and then holding the head, its the same weight club so by transferring the weight from one end to the other you will feel the difference as you swing, trust me I just did it before committing to this answer ;)

A 55g grip to a 25 gram grip is 30g and is quite a bit of weight, not sure how many points that equates to but am sure its a few. not sure how it all works...? but the numbers say it does so I will be a numbers man for now ask me again tomorrow and I will say nah man its all about the feel. lol

yeah I see what you mean. I am more concerned about MOI than SW. So to me, I would say only first 3rd of the club+shaft really matters to me (and length or course...)

Keep in mind that playing with an open port is illegal according to USGA rules...

Just saw this one. really? would you have a link for this?

Just saw this one. really? would you have a link for this?

Sorry, no link but it's in the USGA rule book. Appendix II states "holes through the head (some exceptions may be made for putters and cavity back irons)" are in breach of the rules of conformity. Beginning a round with a club head that has a hole or open port is in breach of Rule 4-1a and carries a penalty of disqualification. However, if the weight falls out opening a port during the course of play, the player may choose to finish that stipulated round or repair the club if it doesn't unduly delay play (Rule 4-3).

Charles Howell III was DQ'd earlier this year for this very reason.

Edited October 1, 201311 yr by chiromikey

Interesting...thanks for the heads up

http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Appendix-II/#II

4. Clubhead

a. Plain in Shape

The clubhead must be generally plain in shape. All parts must be rigid, structural in nature and functional. The clubhead or its parts must not be designed to resemble any other object. It is not practicable to define plain in shape precisely and comprehensively. However, features that are deemed to be in breach of this requirement and are therefore not permitted include, but are not limited to:

(i) All Clubs

• holes through the face;
  
• holes through the head (some exceptions may be made for putters and cavity back irons);
  
• facsimiles of golf balls or actual golf balls incorporated into the head;
  
• features that are for the purpose of meeting dimensional specifications;
  
• features that extend into or ahead of the face;
  
• features that extend significantly above the top line of the head;
  
• furrows in or runners on the head that extend into the face (some exceptions may be made for putters); and
  
• optical or electronic devices.
  

(ii) Woods and Irons

• all features listed in (i) above;
  
• cavities in the outline of the heel and/or the toe of the head that can be viewed from above;
  
• severe or multiple cavities in the outline of the back of the head that can be viewed from above;
  
• transparent material added to the head with the intention of rendering conforming a feature that is not otherwise permitted; and
  
• features that extend beyond the outline of the head when viewed from above.
  
• 
  

According to the rules, I've often wondered how all these non "plain in shape" putters and specifically the Odyssey 2ball are considered legal...or even the egg spoon for that matter.

According to the rules, I've often wondered how all these non "plain in shape" putters and specifically the Odyssey 2ball are considered legal...or even the egg spoon for that matter.

Shhhhh I use those two :)