+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 The M.A.C series is Master Sasaya's personal line and most exclusive series. We originally posted about the M.A.C line up a while back and all of them sold pretty quickly. The rest of the M.A.C putters are being released one by one now, the latest is called CHRONOS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akapur Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 That is beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mygreenaliem Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 makes me want even more....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Chris, What's the benefit of this face mill pattern over original PZ mill and new gen PZ mill? Has Sasaya-san done any research on it? Edited September 27, 2013 by wmclarenf1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDM Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not related to Gold's milling, but in general I've found horizontal milling to feel a bit softer and get the ball rolling a bit sooner while the milling pattern in the putter above is a bit better at eliminating sidespin and feels a bit more solid/gives a bit more feedback, both have benefits, some prefer horizontal milling, some prefer this milling pattern, its personal preference really, others things also contribute as well so its really just a personal generalization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Is that all proven though? Personally I much prefer horizontal face mill and feel it gets the ball going better and off the face quicker but there is a strong school of thought that argues that face mill has no bearing on roll at all. So far I have yet to read anything conclusive for either proposition and am still curious to factually find out what the reality is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDM Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Golf is a game of personal preference and opinion... All the data in the WORLD doesn't mean a bleeding thing once you get clubs out on the course, if someone told you that the horizontal face milling was proven not to get the ball rolling any faster, it would still get the ball rolling faster for you(and me, I prefer that pattern as well), nothing wrong with educating yourself, but don't drown yourself in so much information that it impairs your ability to make choices, especially considering that golf is, for a good percentage of players, a game of feel... If the information is ABSOLUTELY required, then I believe that I read something a while back on Scotty Cameron doing testing on how different milling effects roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Golf is a game of personal preference and opinion... All the data in the WORLD doesn't mean a bleeding thing once you get clubs out on the course, if someone told you that the horizontal face milling was proven not to get the ball rolling any faster, it would still get the ball rolling faster for you(and me, I prefer that pattern as well), nothing wrong with educating yourself, but don't drown yourself in so much information that it impairs your ability to make choices, especially considering that golf is, for a good percentage of players, a game of feel... If the information is ABSOLUTELY required, then I believe that I read something a while back on Scotty Cameron doing testing on how different milling effects roll. Dude.. you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvanilla Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 That one is beautiful! I just got a Golds putter and I love it... will post pics when all my drivers are built and show the bag setup :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 A bunch of people think Gold's is just for looks and imo that couldn't be further from the truth. Most putters have a bad lie, face angle, and CG location, those things effect performance especially for the better player. For me going 4* open vs stock, I see less pulls and the ball easily rolls straighter on flat putts for me, on top of that it just set's up more square visually to me eye. Milling, weights, finish etc.. all has an effect. The weights are often used to face balance or move the CG, the milling is all preference of feel, the finish is about feel, wear and looks. better shafts, perfectly aligned grips, built for you and designed by you. Now all we gotta do is something about the price! but if you guys ever go to golds with us you will fully understand why it cost what it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 A bunch of people think Gold's is just for looks and imo that couldn't be further from the truth. Most putters have a bad lie, face angle, and CG location, those things effect performance especially for the better player. For me going 4* open vs stock, I see less pulls and the ball easily rolls straighter on flat putts for me, on top of that it just set's up more square visually to me eye. Milling, weights, finish etc.. all has an effect. The weights are often used to face balance or move the CG, the milling is all preference of feel, the finish is about feel, wear and looks. better shafts, perfectly aligned grips, built for you and designed by you. Now all we gotta do is something about the price! but if you guys ever go to golds with us you will fully understand why it cost what it does. You may be right. I used to be a Scotty Cameron fan til I realized that only about one in 4 or 5 of his putters off the rack have the sweet spot in the middle of the face. Some towards the toe, some towards the face. I'd always assumed that the CG was where the line on the flange was, even told that by shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 You may be right. I used to be a Scotty Cameron fan til I realized that only about one in 4 or 5 of his putters off the rack have the sweet spot in the middle of the face. Some towards the toe, some towards the face. I'd always assumed that the CG was where the line on the flange was, even told that by shops. It's not only Scotty, so many brands have this problem, I think most do. I think the entire industry has spec issues and that's why aftermarket services are so important. Me personally I can live with the CG being a bit off but not the face & lie angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 any more info on the heel insert and the cavity insert? cherry dots are just aesthetics but this one looks deeper and has some mass to it? my gold's is just a bullet insert with GF. this one looks special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 any more info on the heel insert and the cavity insert? cherry dots are just aesthetics but this one looks deeper and has some mass to it? my gold's is just a bullet insert with GF. this one looks special Aren't those called the arc reactors? I think they are weightless or close to it and for aesthetics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Aren't those called the arc reactors? I think they are weightless or close to it and for aesthetics? oh i thought mine was an arc reactor. i guess i was mistaken i like those arc reactors. might have to get one for my next build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Not sure C. Taking a guess :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvanilla Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hi C. ... As I said I just got one GOLDS for myself (from T.); You had a few "articles" on Sensei; would you mind sharing his background as you did with the TRPX crew. I always curious to know more about the background of the people behind the brands ... how he started, where did he learn, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 That is an arc reactor in both the cavity and face in chronos. Spoon's face is a bullseye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Masayuki Sasaya Born 1972 Began golf in Junior high Attended Dokkyo Junior High and High School Upon graduation from high school studied in England for 2 years Came back and got his degree in Economics from Dokkyo University Attended Kanda Foreign Language School studying Desktop Publishing, Design, and Languages. In 1997 did System Engineering Work, computer programming. CAD work and design. Introduced Gold's Factory web page page for custom putters. From 1992-2000 Learned machining techniques while working from home. Travelled once a year to Shanghai and Singapore to perfect machining and tooling training. Played golf and had a handicap of 4. 2000-2003 May - Gauge Design Japan was established. Became the Chief Engineer for design and performed tour services. Later became an Executive Director. At the same time registered the Gold's Factory Trademark. 2003 June - Gold's Factory officially established. Worked on improving putter designs and honing machining skills every day for the last 10 years. Present day - Strive to provide the world's best quality putters in design, workmanship and performance as well as create unique and personal designs and improve on the putter designs of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Cool T. Sent you several emails with lots of pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Just a quick note... Chronos is sold!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvanilla Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks T! Super informative and super cool! Amazing background! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yep great thread guys, just about to embark on the golds journey with my i33 and some help from T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romaro-Slut Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 i discover my Kanji rolls more true than my other putters when i putt em side by side so Golds is definitely not good looks only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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