gocchin Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Titleist's first forged wedge for the Japan market, 2012's Vokey Forged was perhaps one of the best selling wedges here at TSG. Buoyed by Titleist and Vokey users and enthusiasts all around the world, they jumped at what was a great wedge and forged from S20C at Endo. The new 2014 Vokey Cold Forged models have even more lofts and more grind options and are now cold forged. Bob Vokey again worked with Titleist Japan and the many Titleist Tour pros here to create a wedge that would provide performance up to their specs. This time Vokey chose a cold forging process to help increase consistency in manufacturing and reduce thermal contaction during the cooling process from traditional forging processes. This create more consistency across the wedge head resulting in more consistent feel and performance. When the Vokey Cold Forged were announced, I figured they were no longer Endo and asked our Acushnet rep where these were made. He immediately said, its a secret but... they are made in Japan. They sent me 6 wedges for testing and among the wedges were the 4 grinds that are featured on the new Vokey Cold Forged. The thing about thes 4 grinds is that they are not "optional" grinds in other words, customers cannot choose what grind is in which loft. The grind of each loft is predetermined by Titleist depending on the purpose of that wedge/loft. Here are the available loft and bounces with grind designation: 46/08F 48/08F 50/08F 52/08F 54/10R 56/08K 56/10R 56/14F 58/04K 58/08R 58/12S 60/07R 60/10K 62/09R For me here in Japan, the best grinds were the K and the R grind as conditions here are lush and soft when it comes to both the grass condition and bunkers. The right grind for each individual will depend on conditions and swing style. There is a very good balance of low and high bounces and I took some photos of the grinds with explanations from Vokey. Sole Width: Wide Camber: Enhanced Turf Conditions: Average to Soft INSPIRATION The TK Grind derives its name from Voke's work with a US Open champion and former Titleist Brand Ambassador. FEATURES The TK features a wide sole with moderate camber. BENEFIT The width and camber of the TK sole grind enhance effective bounce of the wedge making it very easy to use out of bunkers. SUITABLE FOR The width and camber of the TK sole grind make it very effective for driver / diggers and for soft turf conditions. It is extremely forgiving out of the sand and high rough. Please note Japan's K grind is a variation of the TK and very close. Sole Width: Medium Camber: Moderate Turf Conditions: Average INSPIRATION The S grind was developed from Voke's work with long-time Titleist Brand Ambassador Steve Stricker. FEATURES The S features a relieved trailing edge ribbon and heel sole grind. BENEFIT The S grind is very stable from full shots, but also allows you to hit a variety of shots around the green with an open face or a square face with the shaft leaning away from the target. SUITABLE FOR Due to its versatility, the S Grind is generally found on mid-bounce wedges. It is suitable to players with a neutral style and can be used in a variety of turf conditions. Sole Width: Medium Camber: Slightly Enhanced Turf Conditions: Average INSPIRATION The Full Sole is inspired by the classic 200 Series sole design. FEATURES The Full Sole Wedge features a full sole with moderate camber and a small trailing edge ribbon BENEFIT The Full Sole makes for a very stable wedge. The stability of the full sole allows for consistent contact and turf interaction from full shots, along with a higher level of forgiveness than other grinds. SUITABLE FOR The Full Sole Wedge is suitable for a wide range of players and is best for full shots and square faced chips around the green. Sole Width: Medium Camber: Moderate Turf Conditions: Average to Soft INSPIRATION The R grind was combined with the TVD series wedge to help with the unique playing conditions found in Japan. FEATURES The R Grind features a pre-relieved leading edge often found in combination with one of Voke's other grinds. BENEFIT Relieving the leading edge of the wedge allows the club to travel through the turf or sand smoothly without digging or driving into the turf. SUITABLE FOR The relieved leading edge can be combined with a lower bounce wedge to reduce excessive digging. It has been used as a Tour Grind for links conditions as well as for thatchy turf. Vokey's forged or cast are very good wedges, even the cast wedges already feel pretty good. I have always found Vokey's to be one of the most balanced wedges around. A wedges feel and spin is not only attributed to its materials and how sharp the grooves are. Though those two characteristic can certainly help BOTH feel and bounce. The design of a wedge, its shape, and grind dictate how the club interacts with the turf and ultimately how well an impact you make on the ball. The better your impact the better your feel AND spin. As I had mentioned the previous Vokey Forged were big winners. They combined great design, grinds, material and a spin milled face for awesome performance and feel. While the shape of Vokeys are always very well praised, one knock on the previous Forged model was that it was perhaps a bit larger and chunkier than many might have liked. While the new Cold Forged are by no means tiny, they have trimmed the size down and taken away a lot of the roundness... resulting in a much more tear drop like shape. I spent a few weeks with the Cold Forged and I have to say I like them even better than the Vokey Forged. Fantastic feel, great spin and playability around the greens. They set up wonderfully and the grinds work for me. There is very little offset though it is progressive meaning offset shrinks as the lofts increase. Titleist Japan actually provides offset number in inches this time around which is quite rare. The overall design of the Cold Forged is a winner and being forged and with multiple grinds makes it even better. I have no doubt the Cold Forged will again challenge for the best wedge of 2014. You can't really complain about a forged Vokey that not only looks good, feels good, but also performs well in all types of conditions. I tried to think about how I could be more detailed with this review but there really is not much to say when I can sum it up with, looks good, sets up great, feels great, spins great, versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Wow, more new ways to spend money. Would there be shaft options like last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for the review T nice pucs and explanion of different grinds. Many many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes thats right, custom shafts as always, light weight shafts for now include MCI 60! They are contemplating heavier MCI models as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokidoki1986 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 With all the variety of loft/bounce/grind they offer no doubt everyone will be able to find a set that suit them, the tear drop shape at set up is look great once again nice work from Vokey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Custom Shafts have now been announced by Titleist Japan. Not too much change from last year save for MCI 60. I have requested they consider doing all models of MCI. DG Tour Issue DG DG SL PX KBS Tour Modus3 NS 750 NS 850 NS 950 MCI 60 Rombax 60 Rombax 70 Motore 6.0i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Fantastic post T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 What lofts/bounce do you think would be best for a player with a step, little bit flippy attack angle and who plays mostly in California and Arizona? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Do you typically take a divot and how big? How are the conditions? Firm or soft? Do you hit fat shots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Titleist never lets us down with their wedges! Always versatile easy on the eyes. These new ones seem to get a bit more zip around the greens than the previous Vokey Forged! Love... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Do you typically take a divot and how big? How are the conditions? Firm or soft? Do you hit fat shots? Hey T, small divot, thin shots a lot, conditions are a mixed bag. If you play a good course in California and Az, they're soft, the other's are on the firmer side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I definitely want to try these so let me know, when you get a chance!. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Rob what lofts are you thinking of? That will affect the choices as well since certain grinds are only available on certain lofts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmadler Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I just bought one cold forged. 14 vokey off of tourspecgolf for a good price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Probably 51 or 52, 56, 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Probably 51 or 52, 56, 60 Come and try the older versions for sale in the BST ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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