Ian-500 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) I after some feedback on the Ryoma D1 V-Spec and Crazys CRZ460. I have a jBEAM 435r which is a deep faced driver, but I seem to miss mainly on the toe or heel, so I need a shallower, square to open faced driver that is very forgiving and long. These 2 drivers have come in to view so if anyone out there has tried these out please reply a.s.a.p. Edited December 30, 2013 by Ian-500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokidoki1986 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) I'm sure Craig will has an answer you're looking for since he has almost every Driver that offer from TSG. I never tried crazy 460 before but I've tried 435, this is good in both distance and feeling but I've trouble keeping the ball in the fairway. I've tried the original Ryoma and the Maxima, the funny thing is that almost every one I know seem to get an extra distance from Ryoma but not for me. Edited December 30, 2013 by tokidoki1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akapur Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) I have had the Ryoma D1 and the Jbeam drivers in the past. If you are looking for a forgiving driver that is long you may want to take a look at the TPRX S driver head. I currently have the D with the Messenger 1 shaft in Stiff and find the combo to be both long and forgiving. I have had some of the best rounds this year with that combo. I have had 5 different drivers in the bag this year but the TPRX is staying. Edited December 30, 2013 by akapur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I after some feedback on the Ryoma D1 V-Spec and Crazys CRZ460. I have a jBEAM 435r which is a deep faced driver, but I seem to miss mainly on the toe or heel, so I need a shallower, square to open faced driver that is very forgiving and long. These 2 drivers have come in to view so if anyone out there has tried these out please reply a.s.a.p. Both the D1 and CRZ are not what most would consider shallow heads. It's a difficult thing to fix a swing flaw with gear if your not willing to do a lot of tinkering. Keep in mind the shaft and specs are almost equally important to the head. Do you have an Idea of why your missing on the toe? I'm a heel misser myself and it's usually for two reasons, besides standing too close to the ball the first is I'm coming over the top and the second gear related reason is my shaft is too long and or soft combined with too light of a swing weight. That's just me, what's the cause for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ian, i dont know about crazy but out of the ryoma models, the v is the most unforgiving. why would you insist on square to open face if you are hiting toe and heel but seldom sqaure. Besides head nd shaft compatibility, long is a function of one hitting the ball squarely and on the sweet spot most, if not all the time. As Chris said, no amount of gear is goimg to cure a swing flaw. Personally, if i play badly, i would always go back to fundamentals and check what went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubawun Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I game the Crazy 460. its by far the most forgiving driver and the best feeling one i have hit. paired with a royal deco, its damned forgiving and great distance too. but you gotta swing easy with this combo. if i try to kill it, it goes all over the place but with an easy swing, it makes you wonder how the ball got that far. never tried the ryoma but i think crazy has a winner in the 460 for average hackers like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) i had a 435R and hated it !!! I tried several shafts but could not make this head perform. It is a good looking well shaped head but mines was a bit of a lemon. Maybe I had a dud because i know this club has many fans. In this case, it was definitely the driver. This is the first club i ever had that my buddies handed right back to me after hitting it a few times and say " meh, no thanks " After owning many Ryoma D1s, i would rate this club as better than average and a solid club, forgiveness is better than average and it keeps the ball down. However you should consider TRPX and Kamui TP-07 Nitro !!!! If u ever get a chance to try out the P-Tune, it is a very good club. Edited December 30, 2013 by robbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 You guys are no fun whatsoever! :) @ Tokidoki; I'm the same with my 435r. Really struggling to keep it on the short stuff. I like to attack the ball with my driver, so I need some assistance. @ Chris and Duffer; I know I have flaws in my swing, and I will work on them with some lessons starting this Saturday. My bad shot is left (a pull), and I was told to tee the ball on my left toe, which worked for a little while. Maybe I stay back on the ball and don't transfer my weight correctly/fast enough all of the time, I don't know. I'll soon find out. I know that in the past when I've tried a closed face driver the ball went left most of the time. At least with a square or open face I get the ball straight or drawn 50% of the time. I shouldn't have put length as a requirement, as I'm long enough (don't go there!). Weirdly I have no problem with my 3w/5w/7w of the fairway. Very confident with them and they fly straight or draw all day long. Mad. @ scubawan; I read that the Royal Deco/CRZ460 combo is really good, and maybe this would help me to focus on a smother swing rather than all out attack. I guess I'd like one of the drivers mentioned to help me along WHILST I'm trying to correct my flaws. It takes a lot to swallow your pride you know.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 i had a 435R and hated it !!! I tried several shafts but could not make this head perform. It is a good looking well shaped head but mines was a bit of a lemon. Maybe I had a dud because i know this club has many fans. In this case, it was definitely the driver. This is the first club i ever had that my buddies handed right back to me after hitting it a few times and say " meh, no thanks " After owning many Ryoma D1s, i would rate this club as better than average and a solid club, forgiveness is better than average and it keeps the ball down. However you should consider TRPX and Kamui TP-07 Nitro !!!! If u ever get a chance to try out the P-Tune, it is a very good club. Thanks robbie. I have a similar feeling with my 435r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akapur Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 You guys are no fun whatsoever! :)@ Tokidoki; I'm the same with my 435r. Really struggling to keep it on the short stuff. I like to attack the ball with my driver, so I need some assistance. @ Chris and Duffer; I know I have flaws in my swing, and I will work on them with some lessons starting this Saturday. My bad shot is left (a pull), and I was told to tee the ball on my left toe, which worked for a little while. Maybe I stay back on the ball and don't transfer my weight correctly/fast enough all of the time, I don't know. I'll soon find out. I know that in the past when I've tried a closed face driver the ball went left most of the time. At least with a square or open face I get the ball straight or drawn 50% of the time. I shouldn't have put length as a requirement, as I'm long enough (don't go there!). Weirdly I have no problem with my 3w/5w/7w of the fairway. Very confident with them and they fly straight or draw all day long. Mad. @ scubawan; I read that the Royal Deco/CRZ460 combo is really good, and maybe this would help me to focus on a smother swing rather than all out attack. I guess I'd like one of the drivers mentioned to help me along WHILST I'm trying to correct my flaws. It takes a lot to swallow your pride you know.......... Ian I have also fought the left side of the fairway this past year with my driver. I found that the right head/shaft combo can help correct that somewhat. Making a change to my swing so that it was more inside out helped immensely and the TPRX with the Messenger gave me a cut ball flight. The Ptune head was very forgiving and adjustable if you need to open the face. Equipment can help cover or mask small flaws in our swings, but alas not fix all that maybe wrong. Working with a good professional and tweaking equipment is the best way to go. Good luck and the truth is Golf is a game where we must learn to swallow our pride to truly enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't know many people who have gotten along with the 435R. Big difference vs the original 435 imo. Any royal deco you need to swing soft imo. Those shafts can get away from you, If you keep it within the shaft it's easy breezy japanesy. A safe suggestion imo is the Trpx S-013 with a messenger shaft, It's sorta a safe bet as I've seen a lot of people get along with this combo, do get the extra crazy weights as well to tinker with. Ryoma maxima does have some good toe real estate but it's not as low and stable as the trpx imo. Some people who come in on the ball with a good angle with better than average striking get the most out of the Maxima. If your all about the face like me stuff like the crazy 435, trpx, ptune etc.. do a really good job at keeping you outta trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hmmm the P-Tune, never really give that too much thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim James Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would consider a heavier weighted shaft - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandee11 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hmmm the P-Tune, never really give that too much thought. P-tune Is a very good head. Not too deep, not too shallow. Is forgiving too! Crz 460 is very forgiving but launch too high for me, not fun when head wind is strong.....I heard the new epon 153 and 103 also very good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGolf Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've tried Crazy 460 in RD shaft, P-Tune, Ryoma Premia, Ryoma Maxima, amongst many heads I've hit and own and for me both ryoma are very forgiving..... Don't like the Crazy 460 much.... There is a P-tune on sale in BST which is selling way cheap..... or pick up a Premia (instead of a V model) and get the right shaft for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLL33 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 This will be a somewhat different suggestion. Let it percolate before rejecting... I've seen many who hit a fine fairway wood shot, as you describe, struggle with oversized head drivers. The fact that you're hitting baby draws with your fairway woods suggests a swing not in much need of repair. Sometimes the answer for a wild driver is to go with a smaller head (against the current fashion that has most people swinging 460 heads). Try a driver that is closest to your eye at address to your favorite FW wood and has a swing weight that doesn't feel like you're windmilling a parking meter on the end of a fishing rod. A lot of the distance comes with size thing is mental, IMO, especially nowadays when 3-wds can go almost as long as drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mygreenaliem Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 ^ Completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) This will be a somewhat different suggestion. Let it percolate before rejecting... I've seen many who hit a fine fairway wood shot, as you describe, struggle with oversized head drivers. The fact that you're hitting baby draws with your fairway woods suggests a swing not in much need of repair. Sometimes the answer for a wild driver is to go with a smaller head (against the current fashion that has most people swinging 460 heads). Try a driver that is closest to your eye at address to your favorite FW wood and has a swing weight that doesn't feel like you're windmilling a parking meter on the end of a fishing rod. A lot of the distance comes with size thing is mental, IMO, especially nowadays when 3-wds can go almost as long as drivers. I do like the way the 435r looks at address, but what I've suddenly realised (and is glaringly obvious!) is that I got on great with a Kai'li in my previous driver and I have one in my 3 wood. I have whiteboards in my other fw's. So what this tells me is that I get along with Diamana shafts very well and I should give a Kai'li (or the newer 'b' or 'w' series) a go in the 435r before I try buying another driver. Simples. If this fails then all my clubs are going in the bin. Hahahahahaha. Thanks for all your advice guys :) Edited January 2, 2014 by Ian-500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokidoki1986 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I agree, looking for a match shaft before looking for a new driver might be a better idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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