golferproject Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) Hi All, After extensive study, it's was mentioned on Miura Golf.com that in 2004 they have done OEM production for TaylorMade RAC MB and CB https://miuragolf.com/pages/yos**taka i decided to buy these golf from a local seller believing these are Miura forged, but I am still unsure after getting the club in my hands. I have DM'd @miuragolf and @miuragiken on IG and also drop an email to [email protected]. I didn't get any feedback yet. So I registered a new account here and hoping someone with some insights can share their thoughts. The reasons i believe these were Miura forged 1. uneven 2mm offset stamp 2. no coin forged pattern 3. The T mark (tour?) next, i personally own a set of Miura MB-5005 and going to try the sound signature of both clubs see if they sounded the same, do you think this method can also help identify them? Please kindly share your insights & thoughts. Edited May 17, 2023 by golferproject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 I still have a set of these that I bought new when I had no business playing blades simply because they were so pretty and felt amazing when center struck. They are fantastic and forced me to get on the path of becoming a better player. It’s been well over a decade since I knew much about these but I seem to recall them being Endo forged not Miura. As mentioned it’s been way too long for me to remember any definitive information so take my input with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, chiromikey said: I still have a set of these that I bought new when I had no business playing blades simply because they were so pretty and felt amazing when center struck. They are fantastic and forced me to get on the path of becoming a better player. It’s been well over a decade since I knew much about these but I seem to recall them being Endo forged not Miura. As mentioned it’s been way too long for me to remember any definitive information so take my input with a grain of salt. it's was mentioned on Miura Golf.com that in 2004 they have done OEM production for TaylorMade RAC MB and CB https://miuragolf.com/pages/yos**taka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 I believe they are referring to the RAC MB TP version. Again, grain of salt… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, chiromikey said: I believe they are referring to the RAC MB TP version. Again, grain of salt… Mine is not the TP version from 2008, it's T stamped from 2004 Edited May 17, 2023 by golferproject didn't know what's TP meant in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 The TPs were different than the regular RAC MBs shown in your pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 These were the MB TPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, chiromikey said: These were the MB TPs Thank you for the pic! Really appreciate your feedback and heads-up on grain of salt. below is the quote from MiuraGolf.com Quote 2004 Yos**taka oversees OEM production for the TaylorMade RAC MB and CB. Using CB irons made by Miura Giken, Retief Goosen wins his second US Open. hope to address a few points 1. It mentioned only 2004 MB and CB 2. The MB TP was released in 2008 3. It didn't mention MB TP from 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 I believe the TPs were the ones specifically created for Goosen in ‘03. I’ll see if I can dig up some info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 Here’s the same stock photo from another google search. The TPs are stamped with “TP” in the center of the crest on the muscle and this includes the production date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, chiromikey said: Here’s the same stock photo from another google search. The TPs are stamped with “TP” in the center of the crest on the muscle and this includes the production date. Sir, please Google Look up "TaylorMade MB TP" release date which is May 1st 2008 https://www.golfalot.com/equipment-reviews/taylormade-rac-mb-tp-irons-review-335.aspx The screenshot you captured says only "TaylorMade MB" without TP. the reason why it's the same pic as TP is because the web site editor from golfalot.com not knowing the differences and used the same stock it should've have "RAC" wording instead of "TP" photo. Thanks for the insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 Digging a little deeper and it appears that the TP version may not have been released to the U.S. market until 2006 so there may be more than one correct answer as to when it came out…none of which gets you any closer to the answer to your original question. Sorry if this rabbit hole led you too far off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 This article from May 2006 talks about the RAC MB TP replacing the RAC forget TP. https://thesandtrap.com/b/clubs/taylormade_rac_mb_tp_irons_review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 You could very well be right about the way my search creates answers. I still believe it was the TP version that was created for Goosen and the set you and I have are the regular RAC MBs. I do recall reading that the originals were Endo forged but I fear I’ll never be able to prove that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 i believe this website shows all the release date - https://www.taylormadegolf.com/product-specs.html?lang=en_US of all iron Taylormade RAC MB - Released in 2003 (MiuraGolf.com mentioned they make them in 2004) Taylormade RAC MB TP - Released in 2006 (not 2008 like golfalot.com says) it matches the article you mentioned about Goosen asked for TP MB. Long story short, yes because of the TP lettering we went down into a rabbit hole, but we both learnt something today.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 We did get some facts cleared up but there may not be another set of production irons that have more mystery, speculation, and discussion surrounding them than these things. The only thing I know for sure is that they’re coming with me to my next range session! I’ll hit them along side a set of tour issue Miuras and some Epons and see if I can add to the speculation as to who produced them for Taylormade. Ha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, chiromikey said: We did get some facts cleared up but there may not be another set of production irons that have more mystery, speculation, and discussion surrounding them than these things. The only thing I know for sure is that they’re coming with me to my next range session! I’ll hit them along side a set of tour issue Miuras and some Epons and see if I can add to the speculation as to who produced them for Taylormade. Ha!! Can’t wait for the comments Mikey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted May 21, 2023 Report Share Posted May 21, 2023 Photos of TaylorMade irons from the last 35 years – GolfWRX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferproject Posted May 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 Sound signature of Miura vs TaylorMade RAC Miura forged i created the video recording the impact sound of both Miura MB5005 (left) and Miura Forged TaylorMade RAC MB from 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMMike Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I still have my RAC MB set with the 2 iron w/ DG X-100 shafts and original grips. Here's pic for you. Gotta love the satin finish! These have the Coin Forged Stamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 hours ago, TMMike said: I still have my RAC MB set with the 2 iron w/ DG X-100 shafts and original grips. Here's pic for you. Gotta love the satin finish! These have the Coin Forged Stamping. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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