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C @ ur speed of late S might be loose.

Nice comparison Stew. You can't get this shaft anymore new?

Email Tario [email protected] he might be able to hook u up with a barely used ryoma/cb46 6.7 ® for a fraction of the original price. Awesome combo long and Forgiving.

Yup, they (hosrt clubs) are the most affected. So easy to think you're hitting the ball wrong and start messing up your alignment/setup b/c more than not, the OTR clubs are too upright. Your 3 iron can be out a 1* and wont do hardly anything but your PW will be bad news :)

Bob what shaft did u install? Sorry if I missed it.

Their ix21 is 59* wonder how that will perform vs the m21 7w

Great review B, certainly worth a look.

To keep it simple - the highest impact with lie angles is with the short/higher lofted clubs. Do this exercise with ur PW or SW: -place a blue tack on the sweet spot - put a straight stick or pencil mimicking the shot trajectory line. - now set the club down and you will notice how much the direction of that pencil changes when you change that lie angle up or down. - do it with your driver and the direction won't change as much. So the key to good scoring is to have your short clubs lie angle set 'dynamically' as ur impact position should have no resemblance to ur address position + shaft toe droop. Hope this is of help. E

Great Stuff Budi. Read up on this, starts about halfway down & see hogans & trevinos take on lie angles http://www.andrewricegolf.com/tag/ben-hogan/ This will leaves no doubt about your direction & results.

Unusual. Not sure if I like it but they must be ecpebsive?

Damn that's really good price.. That's a 1k shaft right? GLWS man.

Lol yea.

Dale, dynamic lie board test with a fitter or some tape at the bottom & hit some balls off a matt. The biggest impact directionally is on ur short irons.

But you still wonder about the bangvoo right? Which means there's a slight doubt to the statement? Which means you are really wanting to try it? Maybe like an itch.. Just waiting to be scratched :) lol let us know how it performs ;-)

I used the mp series then the mp t10 but no love with Mizuno wedges for me as I find their leading edges too sharp. So everytime I walk pass an mp t11 I look away coz they look so good. I didn't check their leading edge, maybe I should.

Oh lol, definitely a good thing. When i got the clubs, I called him & I asked him, are you that good that I can't see any changes? He said, sir I picked the shaft bands one by one so they look exactly ad they were.. I'm like omg coz I specifically txt him at start to not waste time on that lol.

Hey R, that pic of the 905 "Great perspective on actual club head size", what club is that? Here is the Miura LE 7iron http://picasaweb.google.com/asianone974/Irons#5418447106698257170 Are they about the same size as the 905s? E

haha that's great C! Say hello for me.. Tell him my 1st ever sub par round came after his blueprint :) Thanks for letting me use Egay :) You taught him well hehe oh whats OC?

Hey C, your sidekick Edgar still with you?

Common Frank, be the pioneer and let us know :)

Yea.. Ditto. I have one KZG dealer here and real great to work with. Same thing, i throw the ideas and he does it. I would love to have the money to have a set up to initially do mine, then friends for cheap then who knows from there. Not a get rich scheme but a hobby i know i will have the passion for. So much learnt throughout the years and can't do the practical yourself is sooo.. well frustrating..

I haven't Tried the other Ryoma's but the sensation & results I'm getting with Vspec/cb46 will either create more hunger or create fear of changing/trying anything else. Mine is the latter coz iI have used lots of otr drivers & current combo is the only one that can hit the fence on my local range aside from my non - conf TM 360R & it's the most consistent.

Yea.. Although mine has an explanation as to how its achieving it. If I was to guess? Better QC ie COR right at the Max legal vs Mass produced non JDM may have a tolerance allowed Real Lofts Better shafts on your 425 & 152? It's a guess.. But i will bet that this is more to do with quality than a question of conformity. I had two Senior, one late 50s one early 60s, mid cappers inspecting my driver late in the round today after exclaiming, you cant hit the driver that far! I laughingly asked why? Coz your not tall! I'm 5'4 btw and these 2 guys are at least 6" one with R11 and the other with TM Superquad. I just laughed. Then they proceed to check it. So i happily showed them the print near the hosel "Conforming" then one joking said about the tail, there's an engine in there I bet. I replied.. yup, there's a switch somewhere in the grip but i aint showing ya :) It's quite common now when i randomly ring for a spot and play with folks i havent played with b4. E

ahh ok I will next week at the earliest. Thanks C.

:) if this fails, I'm going 302s. C, is there an instruction how to upload high quality photos?