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I was one of the lucky ones that got to test these and here were my initial thoughts. On looks alone the new Seven CBs are amazing. The precise machining is apparent and unlike almost anything in the golf world. This automatically puts them in elite company so comparing them to my copper Epon 302s seems only natural. My 302s have graphite shafts so they're pretty hot and both of these Seven models didn't give up any distance with steel shafts mounted. The Sevens are definitely more forgiving and some how do so without giving up the compact players profile. The only hint that these would be this forgiving when at address is that top line is just slightly thicker. Not enough to take away the appeal for the lower handicappers but thick enough to give a little more confidence to those that might be moving away from something more GI. They definitely invoke the feeling of players CBs and I like the trend of lower offsets that I'm seeing in players clubs. These still have offset but it's not enough to become a distraction like it has for Epon. The neck, toe, and overall shape are very pleasing and actually made my 302s look a bit dated. Of course feel is there and I believe it will be there no matter what the shaft preference is. Every bit as good as Epon if that's our current pinnacle of measurement. The only thing I didn't like, or more accurately, that I'm just not used to, were the width of the soles. They work too well for their intended purpose, and keep the club from getting too deep into the turf. For a players CB I'd personally prefer just a tiny bit thinner sole but the club hides it well and you don't even notice it at address. These would be fantastic on slightly softer turf, which we just don't have in AZ. When you look at these as a whole package, it all works perfectly together and the quality is second to none. The combination of forgiveness, top line, and wider sole should help bring people looking to transition from GI clubs. The size, feel, and less offset make this a great players iron. And the quality should attract anyone that simply want the best of the best!

I'm enjoying the read and your thoughts guys but I'm gonna bring it back to the Ryoma for a sec. I read draw bias and that's a big red flag for me. How much of a draw bias is there and do you think it's head or shaft related?

I love my Tourstage X-FW Type T 2W and it's long too. I just didn't like the size, sound, feel, or higher trajectory of the first gen Ryoma 2W but it was easier to hit than the Tourstage. Knowing that, is this one still worth a try for me?

Nice review bud, thanks and congrats! Been really wanting to try the new Ryoma 2W...

I hit the 6iron and was pretty impressed...and it's few and far between that a CB impresses me. I'm kinda glad I didn't see the wedges...I'd likely have bought these on the spot!

The progressively thinner sole widths and available GW make this so appealing! Not to mention how you packed more forgiveness into a compact CB. The decreased offset and forgiveness make it too easy to hit these straight. Better players could game these and it would be like cheating within the rules...and without those random fliers that go 15yds long for no reason like most GI clubs can do.

It's been a while since I've had my hands on Vegas but iirc, the Vegas were larger. I haven't hit the Shinagawas yet so I can't comment on those. It's hard to talk about blades being generous unless we're talking about the old AF-Tours but I wouldn't say these are any less generous than the P2s. They are pretty different though.

If you're not looking for the small details, they are exactly the same shape.

All you need to do is imagine the Flatbacks with no offset and a better sole grind. Perfection comes to mind ;)

I have several friends high up at Ping and got to play Tour hand-me-downs for years so it's hard for me to knock them but I was disappointed when they moved manufacturing from our local Phoenix are to China. Even more disappointed that in the beginning of their move you could buy knock-offs before the actual Ping product was available! They were one of the last hold outs to make that move so I do respect them for that. Their equipment has always lead the market, sometimes before the market was even ready for it. They were the first out with the adjustable hosel in their drivers and woods about 15yrs ago and had to abandon it because people thought it was a gimmick. They were also the last to go to titanium because the technology hadn't yet offered enough performance advantage over wood. And their castings do feel pretty darned good, even to a golf snob like me...

+1

Thanks bud! These have been a dream of mine for years. I absolutely love the Flatbacks but since I fight going left I always wished they didn't have the offset.

Here's a couple of address pics with the 7iron and PW. It's really hard to get a proper angle/perspective with these iPhone cameras so please forgive me...

The feel is very very similar, as I'm sure these are from a near exact mold. I'll take some address pics in a bit but it's basically a Flatback with the offset removed so the look at address is familiar if you've seen the Yururis.

Lol, not any time soon. But my beloved Yururi Flatbacks will be giving up their spot...

My MBs arrived today. Raw black with Modus3 120X and as I do with all of my clubs, I check and set lie/lofts to my specs. This is what every single iron was like...set exactly where the specs say they should be, not the customer will never know, not close, not good enough, not even +/- 1.......EXACTLY! Example: 9iron specs, 62.5* lie, 42* loft *Sorry, I tried to get rid of the double pics but can't seem to do it from my mobile browser...??

I'm into this!

I bought sword oil from Amazon. I'd wipe off any debris after each round then spray on the sword oil and rub it into the metal so it has a light coat all over to protect it from moisture. Takes 2 mins to do the whole set. I forgot a few times and never got any rust so I just stopped after a while. They do look pretty when all oiled up though!

It depends on where you live. I live in AZ and have been playing the Yururi raw black for many years and I have zero rust. And I haven't oiled them in over 3 years!

Is that the set I just ordered? :))

Wow! Nice pic :)

These are beauties Chris!

I got to hit them from hard and soft turf conditions (not soggy though) and the sole grind was VERY impressive. I don't have a steep swing but these rivaled many of the CBs with much wider soles. Went in nicely and ejected themselves before getting too deep. The heel and toe grinds seemed to make a noticeable difference although I can't figure out why. I honestly can't find anything I didn't like about them!

I guess the cat's out of the bag. As Chris said, I have hit these. Absolutely the best iron I've ever had my hands on. I was content with my arsenal but I have to have these! Stew, you gotta try these! It's everything we've been begging to be fixed in an iron!

These are Yururis on steroids! Everything I love about the Flatbacks plus all the improvements I would have made...