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M JUST AWESOME!!

B Sent u an email.

Great idea M. Also want to throw my thanks in to D for bringing the Vice company to my attention.

After 3 rounds the Vice Pro Plus ball is in great shape. Cover has no ugly marks. At this price point these are a good value.

Mikey I was thinking the same thing

Excellent Bag!!

I have a Glorious 14 degree with a TPRX Air Shaft. Very high launching combo. Distance wise almost as long as the Vspec/TPRX combo i have which is a 9.5 The Glorious combo is very very forgiving. I think using a lower or mid launch shaft may bring out even more distance.

Hutchy is right on the money about the Elite grips. They feel great and hold up very well. I also don't use a glove and find the grip to be easy to hold on to and soft enough not to hurt my hands

Richard The RZN Black and ProV1 comparison for me goes like this ProV1 more durable ball with a better cover. More spin around the greens. RZN Black longer off the driver. Less side spin on long shots. Less spin around greens. Same feel off the putter Pro plus is very similar to the Pro v1 and so compares against the Rzn Black similarly. More spin on shorter shots and less distance on longer shots i.e. the Driver. I didn't mention in the above post that i played two balls most of the round.

So I played a round this morning with the Pro Plus Vice balls. Conditions were ideal no wind and course is coming around very nicely. A little background. I usually play one of three balls only: Epon F4, Nike RZN Black or ProV1's. The Pro plus looks like a high quality ball, nice finish and the dimple pattern is very reminiscent of the ProV1 ball Feel off the driver was very nice, solid ball, did not notice any increased side spin or off line motion. I like a ball to feel and sound solid when making contact and this ball fits the bill. Iron shots were what i would normally see with my other ball choices. Good flight no odd side spin. Feel was again solid. Short irons had good spin when the ball makes contact with the green. Short par 3 i hit an 8 iron off the tee the ball landed 3 feet from the pin and stuck. Exactly what i was looking for. Longer irons again the ball felt and reacted much like the ProV1 balls. Off the putter the ball rolled well. Felt solid. I was using my Zen putter today and this ball felt great off the face. Again i did not notice any odd motion or off line spin from the putter face. I would have to say if i closed my eyes i would not be able to tell the difference between the Pro V1 and the Vice Pro Plus balls. For the money this is an excellent replacement to the high end balls.

Thanks to D I ordered the Vice Pro Plus balls. They arrived today. Will be in the bag for tomorrow.

D Good write-up. Based on your experience i went ahead and ordered the Pro Plus.

Wonderful bag. Love Machine putters.\

Nike RZN Black or ProV1

The Zen is a great putter. It isn't for everyone, those that have trouble with their stroke find the Zen difficult to make putts with. I am back to using it this year and am finding the speed control to be perfect. I have it shafted with a Quadra Fire express Putter shaft, and the balance is ideal for me.

Bryan My 15 year old son has low spin numbers as well. He had trouble getting spin over 2000. His SS is 105MPH. His drives average out at around 270. Even though he is out of the ideal range for spin he still is able to hit the ball a good distance out. You may need to find a combo that suits your numbers. BTW My son went with a soft Stiff flex which gave him better results then the Stiff he was fit for.

Nob you could have it hot melted to increase the swing weight. Keep the length at 44-44.5

B Nice to hear from you again. Sorry for your troubles of late, but hopefully things are on the upswing for you again. I appreciate your apology and know how difficult it is to air your troubles to everyone.

Very solid combo here. GLWS

Nob Both great bags. Must be hard to decide which bag to use on a day to day basis.

E Very nice!!

I currently have a Tataki 52/58 wedge set and a 52/58 custom finish Seven set. Both sets are ball shredding machines. Great spin and stopping power. Where they differ is in feel. The seven are uber soft wedges and the Tataki's are much firmer, The Seven's look nicer and feel better. For my opinion I think the Seven are better wedges.

D The TPRX FW shaft is lighter and softer to flex then the FW80 The FW80 would make an interesting addition to the Glorious FW. It would bring the ball flight down and make it a low stinger type of shot. The TPRX was tipped to make it a little stiffer for me. Ball flight is mid and gives a good amount of run. I think maybe you might want to try the FW80 in it or the newer version crazy has out.

D The F3 was always the best 3wood for me. Great ball flight easy to hit off the tee and reasonably good off the deck. Very long and forgiving. Sound was very much like the D1 driver head The Glorious is easier to hit and more forgiving. Very long especially in this combo i have. Off the deck i would say longer for me then the F3 was. Sound is ok not to loud. Feel is solid. I was always sorry i sold the F3, but now with the Glorious I don't miss it at all

Very true!! The MCI have a much nicer feel then the Recoils. Always felt the Recoils were a little dead to me. The MCI give feedback and are very smooth.