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If this is " FEEL " golf which I'm having a feeling it could be don't even bother having them come on to debate this as it manufactures its gear at the lower end of the Chinese manufacturing spectrum.

Fourteen 770-Cast vs 770-Forged, the cast version like the TB-PROTO does indeed feel softer, its easier to bend and also dings up quicker which shows its softer, but if you happen to be someone who thinks softer is better you can create super duper soft clubs via the Annealing process which is a softening process causing changes in its properties such as strength and hardness. It is a process that produces conditions by heating and maintaining at a suitable temperature, and then cooling very slowly. It is used to induce softness, relieve internal stresses, refine the structure and improve cold working properties. because of the way fourteen builds their castings. Its quite amazing and pretty unheard of in the golf industry but their clubs that their pro's play are forged due to preference at ENDO, also its worth to note fourteens wedges are cast as well. Also if you were to not heat treat the metal after its been annealed you could bend the lie and loft with your hand only and with very little pressure. IMO forging is not about making the softest clubs because if that was the goal its really simple to do by the lack of heat treatment which hardens it after annealing. It is more so the goal to produce a uniform grain pattern and finding the perfect feel which can differ based on ones taste, opinion, design and ball striking skills. Whatever the case forging is superior to casting, milling, and rapid prototyping machines in quality golf club applications.

Get him on here, ill take his facts and send it to a couple of factories R&D guys or Material experts and see what they come back with. I would also love to get some samples of these clubs to compare. We can have a little debate His opinion is exactly that but mine is based off of the best materials and process, yes casting has come a long way but its still not the preference of U.S tour players and for sure not the Japanese players who are even more spoiled that the U.S Tour guys. Its like being a chef and cooking with substandard ingredients to save money or time, the recipe just doesn't come out as rich or pure, this is the same with electronics and auto's to build the best you must have the best methods and start ground up using the best of everything. I consider myself a conosuier of clubs, USDM & JDM and if I havent tasted these amazing unknown super castings I must, I will say i have tried the TM's, Pings, Clevelands, etc.. and many other castings yet none get close to Fourteen and Honma's castings, they dont even compare. Casting vs Casting I can show this guy better, Forged vs Casting its no contest at all.

In every way shape or form ENDO is a far better a forging. If you were to look at process, the numbers, quality of matierals etc.. I would rank Miura below Endo, Kyoei, and Mizuno putting them in 4th place. In USA Miura is big, in Japan Miura is looked down at for 2 piece heads.

Seida Wedge is Released JULY 13th!!! Here is the skinny: Loft 52 Lie 62.5 bounce 9 F.P.3.5 Loft 56 Lie 63 bounce 14 F.P. 3.5 Loft 60 Lie 63.5 bounce 10 F.P. 5 Square Groove 8.0x4.0 Material SS (about S10C so it is softer than S25C) Single Milling on the Face Sole : Tour Grinding advised by Chris Pierson Name: Keigekiku SEIDA Nick name: Football Jersey Wedge The target is the serious Golfer yet it is very easy to handle. The feeling of impact is very good because it is made of a very soft material. We were very afraid of its Durability so it has been plated in brushed satin. Its soft material and Plating (Nickel Chrome) and Milling produced an amazing and soft inpact which will give you the control and Spin you need for the shot. The head's center of gravity is on the high side creating a lower and more accurate trajectory creating lots of easy spin.

On the S200 topic its simply because of weight and preference of the Japanese player due to their build and strength profile. On a side note the reason why Rifle Shafts are no longer available in Japan is because the quality has not stabilized after True Temper took over. Yes the shafts sent to Japan are usually of a tighter quality control. Black Golds purchased in Japan say " Made in Japan " where the USA versions are built in America.

This guy is full of crap, I would love to know what brand is saying this stuff

You can use a BBQ stick and apply model enamel paint and make sure to let it dry for 24 hours, then use an accuwipe or a tissue that has no loose fibers put acetone on it and wipe away excess without to much pressure or getting any liquid into the engraving.

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If you need one i have it with the stock shaft at 115.00 plus shipping and paypal fee's brand new.

Shall we compare guys? Notice the #7 is a different size Hokkaido on Right Hokkaido on Left

You guys are making me want to keep them for myself! Please dont do this! Its 2 grand shipped for anyone crazy enough to slap them against dirt. All 5 have been sold out, I was only able to purchase this 1 set. Im pretty sure you will never see pic's of another set anywhere or ever come across info or another for sale.

Introducing The MP-HOKKAIDO Irons. 1 of 5 sets produced designed for the softer conditions of Japan's Hokkaido region. This set of irons is optimal for the better player, it is based off of the MP-60 iron yet has a more squared toe, less offset, and the sole has a cut away that allows better players to make cleaner contact with the ball. This is a very drastic grind for Mizuno to produce, They are not willing to do this in the custom dept " I asked " which makes these a truly rare set. I will be posting better pics this week and also compare it to the current MP-60 model.

No Sir this is a late 2005 release and a favorite of the ENDO & Epon staff.

Ion is just a finish that has a deep metallic look to it. The flowerband is just a graphic, other than that they are identical to the U.S versions.

Hello and welcome, its the same thing but with a different shaft. The Japanese shaft still has English text on it.

I can get it for you no problem, I just cant confirm any differences.

From Above it looks 425ish.

Wedge is out of da bag already, didnt last 2 rounds but i would highly suggest it for a woman or high handicapper. 19* didnt make it back in either, now playing 13.5, 18, 22* EPON FW's

Yes thats confirmed it will be released in August in the USA and early 2008 in Japan. MP Hokkaido pics should be up by this Wednesday.

Its 350g, The way I have weighted some putters is tungsten powder down the shaft with a cork then using a balance certified weight in the butt end.

This wedge is only available in 51 & 57* guys, PM me if interested.

Here are some graphics to help people grasp the concept.