What a swing...oh no!!!!

[Doug28450]

Last Friday I spent some time on the launch moniter at the local golf store. The results were frightening. Mostly they confirmed my suspicions, overly high ball flight. The average results are as follows:

TM 540XD....Ball Speed, 139.8....Launch Angle, 19.9......Back Spin, 4539.....Club Head Speed, 99.0

Adams Redline RPM 46"shaft......Ball Speed, 142.6......Launch Angle, 19.9.....Back Spin, 4766........Clib Head Speed, 101.9

TM R5......Ball Speed, 142.8......Launch Angle, 19.0......Back Spin, 5494.....Club Head Speed, 104.2

OK........now other than giving up golf and taking up bicycling please give me your thoughts.

Thanks

[sam2011]

where do you place the ball in your stance, in reference to your front (left if youre a righty) foot?

[cpga]

Like sam said take a look at where you're positioning the ball in your set up, and another thing from your results I'm curious to is what were the lofts of the three drivers because your launch angle being 19-20 between the three seems too high in my opinion. I suggest going on Taylormadegolf's website and doing their online custom fitting to get an idea of what you should be hitting.

Hope this helps

[Doug28450]

The loft of the two TM's was 9.5 degrees, the Adams was 9 degrees. Each driver had a stiff shaft. The two TM's had a stock shaft, I'm not sure about the Adams as the shaft was +1 inch.

I do play right handed and I poosition the ball off my left heel.

[kpcw]

The gentlemen ask where you position the ball as it's a question that should provoke a thought from you that hmmm...maybe you are placing the ball too far forward. They ask the question and your reply was simply, "Inside my left foot." Okay....now think a bit about their question and where they were pushing your brain to ponder......

Test. Take your address. Have someowne take a club and place it on the line from inside your left foot, parallel to the ball. First that'll show if you are really placing the ball where you think you are. Great. Now on the mat, put down a small piece of duct tape where the club meets your left inner foot. Remove the club on the ground. The tee has not moved, now you have a line which will set up the test....

Hit from that position (foot with tape just touching the inner left foot). Look at the numbers on the screen. Whatdda ya see?

Okay, now move the ball two inches further back in your stance (don't simply widen your stance by moving the left foot forward, move both feet closer to the target by two inches). Hit ten balls. Whatdda ya see in terms of backspin and launch angle?

If you STILL have high launch and high spin, you are probably casting from the top of your swing, scooping/flippy at impact which casues these types of high launch/high spin numbers. You are probably very steep on your downswing, cutting at the ball, hitting fades/slices. Flatten your dowswing plane. Cured. Don't give up on golf.

Good luck.

[Doug28450]

During the session my thought was ball position as well, so I did work on ball position during the session. Moving the ball backin my stance had very little effect on the launch angle and spin rate. They both came down, but not substantially.

I've suspected it is a swing flaw, but I have not known what it is and how to correct it.

Now it's back to the range and some lessons.

Thanks.

BTW I don't intend to give up the game.

[vokester]

those launch angles are crazy! :confused:

[DUBBED]

Basically you're hitting down on it, which means you're coming over the top. Do you miss straight left or slice right?

The reason I say this is because of your launch angles and spin rate. Stats like that have nothing to do with ball position, it's all your "angle of attack".

[Doug28450]

My tendency is to slice (right).

A flatter swing is required? As in my swing is too upright?

Thanks!

[ErichF]

Bingo,

That is crazy ball spin. If the ball was too forward the spin would be lower but with that high launch.

The ball speed to club head speed seems off. Callaway said a solid hit at 100mph would result in ball speed of 150mph.

Divide the ball speed by 1.5 and you will get the Club head speed if hit solid.

Seems to work very well.

Coments?

I would say take up bowling. The ball will come back.

Cheers,

EZF

[DUBBED]

My tendency is to slice (right).

A flatter swing is required? As in my swing is too upright?

Thanks!

Upright no, flatter no. You just need to find your personal plane, and adjust your swing path so you attack along that plane. When you come over the top this means that you are swinging over that plane. I have an incredibly upright swing, but I am almost perfectly on plane.

Try videotaping your swing and see what you are doing that is causing you to swing out to in.