aussiefreddy Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murch Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zojo Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 doesn't nike? I really don't have a clue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA here is a secret for you murch that Tourstage dont want you to know. They switched to Nelson just before creating Bridgestone U.S :wah: Thats right and Nelson many say is almost 25% cheaper than Endo. Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for I have a list but just cant find it right now. Just because the forging is done by Endo it doesn't mean it will feel like other Endo clubs. Each OEM has its own standard and process in regards to the feel and manufacturing of its product even within Endo. Rumor is Gauge Japan is going to use Endo for their next line of Muscle Back Irons. :wah: This is a huge step down from Himeji forged Steel but the grinders just cant complete the amount of sets necessary so its time to go big and Endo is usually the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 if titleist irons are endo forged then gauge are making a big mistake moving to endo. i have had many sets of titleist blades and none of them compare to the feel of the gauge mbs i previously owned!i think im gettin a fever :fever: lol big move for them but i suppose if the company wants to grow they got move to the big sclae suppliers :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxio Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Nelson for Bridgestone? Chris can you confirm if this is just Bridgstone USA or all the line including the new TS Xblades and MR23s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedioliver Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi, What's the deal with this Nelson company???...never heard of it before... Is it a american or an asian company???... Did they already produce forged heads for big brands???... Thanks JediOliver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluinser Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA here is a secret for you murch that Tourstage dont want you to know. They switched to Nelson just before creating Bridgestone U.S :wah: Thats right and Nelson many say is almost 25% cheaper than Endo. Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for I have a list but just cant find it right now. Just because the forging is done by Endo it doesn't mean it will feel like other Endo clubs. Each OEM has its own standard and process in regards to the feel and manufacturing of its product even within Endo. Rumor is Gauge Japan is going to use Endo for their next line of Muscle Back Irons. :wah: This is a huge step down from Himeji forged Steel but the grinders just cant complete the amount of sets necessary so its time to go big and Endo is usually the next step. That would be like how they have moved to a more commercial approach with their putters this year. If what you said is indeed correct, we better buy up an extra set of heads.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpNrun24 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I am positive that the MR-23's are Endo forged!! Only the best for MARUCHAN! :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzodia Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 yeah who the heck is nelson and what's the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxio Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I am positive that the MR-23's are Endo forged!! Â Only the best for MARUCHAN! Â :love: For sure Maru's 23s will be Endo. But what about the retail sets? Time to start buying up 2004 model TS products. I hope it doesn't become a RAC 05TP issue, the RAC 04CBs were clearly forged at a better facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 IMO they will make Maru's personal Irons in Japan as they do with most of the other Tourstage staffers who request particular customizations. I have seen X-blades with big offset and XCB's with fat top lines and a healthy offset as well as the extreme opposite. On TSG V.1 I posted XL pics of 4 different Japan made variations of the XCB, The 2004 MR-23s were indeed made by Endo but my best guess is that the new line will be made by Nelson. Most factories in Japan struggle making 1500 sets of irons in a month while China and other Asia factories can pump out 4000+ with no problem. Its kinda like Tigers old Titleist Irons, they were basically Mizuno MP-14s forged by Miura with a Titleist stamping. Nelson is located in China and is the arguably against Endo the largest OEM forged golf club manufacturer right now. But really who can tell the difference between Nelson, Endo or Fushen factories? Not me but I can sure tell the difference between Endo & Nelson vs Himeji, Miura and Kyoei. They say Japanese S25C is the best anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebee Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I can see it now More ebay nonsense not only will there be retail and crap passed off as tour, now there will be nelson forged stuff being passing off as Himeji, Miura and Kyoei forged. :surprize: :surprize: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b33r Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 so then how does ishihara's forgings compare,you know where all the scratch stuff is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxio Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Japan's best are S25C!!! Surely you don't mean my Cobra Forged SS :whistle: currently waiting for the PX 5.5s arriving this weekend. Gentlemen I'm doing Ho'ing for the year. The only thing that seemed to interest me were the new X Blades but since they are no longer Endo the iron line up for the rest of the year is as follows. TS Xblades TX Tours S Cobra Forged SS PX 5.5s Rac 04 CBs DGR300s hard stepped 1X Z 101s (on the way!!!) with DGS300 softstepped 1X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mizuno manufacture Mizuno. The irons for as long as I can remember have been number one on the Darrel survey. I remember Tiger changing from Mizuno to "Titleist" irons. Just after the change he had problems with his distance control on his short irons. No surprises seeing TSG promoting Mizuno. Hey didn't Garcia play them before turning pro? I've had my mizzy MP11s since 1992 and I'm a club junkie. Just can't find anything I would be happy to replace them with, and let me tell you when the swing is on-song the are absolutely deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 so then how does ishihara's forgings compare,you know where all the scratch stuff is made. Ishihara buys its raw heads from one of the many foundries in Himeji Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 But really who can tell the difference between Nelson, Endo or Fushen factories? Not me but I can sure tell the difference between Endo & Nelson vs Himeji, Miura and Kyoei.They say Japanese S25C is the best anywhere. What happened to the old thread with all the manufacturers and where their heads are forged? Would make a nice sticky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSpec Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 So even though the older Japanese X-Blade CB and new J33 combos. look the same (3-7) the Xs are Endo and the Js are Nelson? Also have to remember. Different grades/types of steel can be used in the same foundry depending on what the OEM requests. So the Titleist irons and Tourstage irons that were both forged @ Endo can feel/be totally diff. I know I've never hit a forged Titleist iron that has felt as "soft" as some of the Japanese Tourstage irons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxio Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Â Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Very interesting stuff....people could be dishing out :money: on ebay for false forgings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxio Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more? From what I researched before I bought my Cobras S--C was a Japanese way of measuring carbon steel. Compared to the usual 10-- used by American companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more? From what I researched before I bought my Cobras S--C was a Japanese way of measuring carbon steel. Compared to the usual 10-- used by American companies. ok so to recap, 1018 = S18C 1025 = S25C I see, wow thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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