Posted July 19, 200519 yr comment_99505 Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for.
July 19, 200519 yr comment_99507 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA
July 19, 200519 yr comment_99531 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA here is a secret for you murch that Tourstage dont want you to know. They switched to Nelson just before creating Bridgestone U.S :wah: Thats right and Nelson many say is almost 25% cheaper than Endo. Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for I have a list but just cant find it right now. Just because the forging is done by Endo it doesn't mean it will feel like other Endo clubs. Each OEM has its own standard and process in regards to the feel and manufacturing of its product even within Endo. Rumor is Gauge Japan is going to use Endo for their next line of Muscle Back Irons. :wah: This is a huge step down from Himeji forged Steel but the grinders just cant complete the amount of sets necessary so its time to go big and Endo is usually the next step.
July 19, 200519 yr comment_99534 if titleist irons are endo forged then gauge are making a big mistake moving to endo. i have had many sets of titleist blades and none of them compare to the feel of the gauge mbs i previously owned!i think im gettin a fever :fever: lol big move for them but i suppose if the company wants to grow they got move to the big sclae suppliers :cool:
July 20, 200519 yr comment_99572 Nelson for Bridgestone? Chris can you confirm if this is just Bridgstone USA or all the line including the new TS Xblades and MR23s?
July 20, 200519 yr comment_99593 Hi, What's the deal with this Nelson company???...never heard of it before... Is it a american or an asian company???... Did they already produce forged heads for big brands???... Thanks JediOliver...
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99635 Hey mate, They have done and still do many, Bridgestone, Titleist to name a few. This has been talked about many times on the forums so you should be able to find a lot of info. Kind regards, Chris M Tour Technologies, Aust PGA here is a secret for you murch that Tourstage dont want you to know. They switched to Nelson just before creating Bridgestone U.S :wah: Thats right and Nelson many say is almost 25% cheaper than Endo. Does anyone know which golf equipment companies Endo Forging forge club heads for I have a list but just cant find it right now. Just because the forging is done by Endo it doesn't mean it will feel like other Endo clubs. Each OEM has its own standard and process in regards to the feel and manufacturing of its product even within Endo. Rumor is Gauge Japan is going to use Endo for their next line of Muscle Back Irons. :wah: This is a huge step down from Himeji forged Steel but the grinders just cant complete the amount of sets necessary so its time to go big and Endo is usually the next step. That would be like how they have moved to a more commercial approach with their putters this year. If what you said is indeed correct, we better buy up an extra set of heads.....lol
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99647 I am positive that the MR-23's are Endo forged!! Only the best for MARUCHAN! :love:
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99651 I am positive that the MR-23's are Endo forged!! Â Only the best for MARUCHAN! Â :love: For sure Maru's 23s will be Endo. But what about the retail sets? Time to start buying up 2004 model TS products. I hope it doesn't become a RAC 05TP issue, the RAC 04CBs were clearly forged at a better facility.
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99656 IMO they will make Maru's personal Irons in Japan as they do with most of the other Tourstage staffers who request particular customizations. I have seen X-blades with big offset and XCB's with fat top lines and a healthy offset as well as the extreme opposite. On TSG V.1 I posted XL pics of 4 different Japan made variations of the XCB, The 2004 MR-23s were indeed made by Endo but my best guess is that the new line will be made by Nelson. Most factories in Japan struggle making 1500 sets of irons in a month while China and other Asia factories can pump out 4000+ with no problem. Its kinda like Tigers old Titleist Irons, they were basically Mizuno MP-14s forged by Miura with a Titleist stamping. Nelson is located in China and is the arguably against Endo the largest OEM forged golf club manufacturer right now. But really who can tell the difference between Nelson, Endo or Fushen factories? Not me but I can sure tell the difference between Endo & Nelson vs Himeji, Miura and Kyoei. They say Japanese S25C is the best anywhere.
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99662 I can see it now More ebay nonsense not only will there be retail and crap passed off as tour, now there will be nelson forged stuff being passing off as Himeji, Miura and Kyoei forged. :surprize: :surprize:
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99670 so then how does ishihara's forgings compare,you know where all the scratch stuff is made.
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99671 Japan's best are S25C!!! Surely you don't mean my Cobra Forged SS :whistle: currently waiting for the PX 5.5s arriving this weekend. Gentlemen I'm doing Ho'ing for the year. The only thing that seemed to interest me were the new X Blades but since they are no longer Endo the iron line up for the rest of the year is as follows. TS Xblades TX Tours S Cobra Forged SS PX 5.5s Rac 04 CBs DGR300s hard stepped 1X Z 101s (on the way!!!) with DGS300 softstepped 1X
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99676 Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mizuno manufacture Mizuno. The irons for as long as I can remember have been number one on the Darrel survey. I remember Tiger changing from Mizuno to "Titleist" irons. Just after the change he had problems with his distance control on his short irons. No surprises seeing TSG promoting Mizuno. Hey didn't Garcia play them before turning pro? I've had my mizzy MP11s since 1992 and I'm a club junkie. Just can't find anything I would be happy to replace them with, and let me tell you when the swing is on-song the are absolutely deadly.
July 21, 200519 yr comment_99697 so then how does ishihara's forgings compare,you know where all the scratch stuff is made. Ishihara buys its raw heads from one of the many foundries in Himeji Japan.
July 22, 200519 yr comment_99741 But really who can tell the difference between Nelson, Endo or Fushen factories? Not me but I can sure tell the difference between Endo & Nelson vs Himeji, Miura and Kyoei.They say Japanese S25C is the best anywhere. What happened to the old thread with all the manufacturers and where their heads are forged? Would make a nice sticky.
July 22, 200519 yr comment_99751 So even though the older Japanese X-Blade CB and new J33 combos. look the same (3-7) the Xs are Endo and the Js are Nelson? Also have to remember. Different grades/types of steel can be used in the same foundry depending on what the OEM requests. So the Titleist irons and Tourstage irons that were both forged @ Endo can feel/be totally diff. I know I've never hit a forged Titleist iron that has felt as "soft" as some of the Japanese Tourstage irons.
July 24, 200519 yr comment_99868 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Â Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC.
July 27, 200519 yr comment_100095 Very interesting stuff....people could be dishing out :money: on ebay for false forgings
July 27, 200519 yr comment_100105 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more?
July 28, 200519 yr comment_100141 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more? From what I researched before I bought my Cobras S--C was a Japanese way of measuring carbon steel. Compared to the usual 10-- used by American companies.
July 28, 200519 yr comment_100150 Cobras SS and CB are all S30C not S25C. Big difference. ooops my bad. I remembered the S and C forgot about the number at least the S and C indicate it is a Japanese forging which it in itself indicates better QC. I had no idea about the S & C, can you explain more? From what I researched before I bought my Cobras S--C was a Japanese way of measuring carbon steel. Compared to the usual 10-- used by American companies. ok so to recap, 1018 = S18C 1025 = S25C I see, wow thx.
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