swing981 Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Can anybody please compare the scratch wedges to the new 2005 gauge japan wedges....feel,grind,spin etc...thks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I have no experience with the new GD wedges and obviously I am biased but keep in mind that we can do any grind that you want and we go so far as to fit the grind to your swing type, typical playing conditions and what kinds of shots you like to hit. Also keep in mind that we offer different grooves to match the spin to what you are looking for and that we match the shape to exactly what you like to look at. In addition we use the softest steel on the market 1018 compared to 1020-1045 in other companies wedges. Basically we can do ANYTHING which gives us the ability to build you your perfect wedge as opposed to having you choose something from off the rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 :wah: :wah: :wah: Ari, you're just killing me. As we discussed in via email the weakest part of my game is the 20 - 50 yard chip. Man if I lived anywhere in the states I would drive for hours to come and see you!! I believe your offering to be of the highest quality, and based on the time and effort you put in to each client good value for money. If ever I am in continental USA, I will make the trip to see you. Keep up the good work!! :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 :wah: Â :wah: Â :wah: Ari, you're just killing me. As we discussed in via email the weakest part of my game is the 20 - 50 yard chip. Man if I lived anywhere in the states I would drive for hours to come and see you!!I believe your offering to be of the highest quality, and based on the time and effort you put in to each client good value for money. If ever I am in continental USA, I will make the trip to see you. Keep up the good work!! :cool: Let me know when you are planning on coming by! :cool: We are currently in the process of setting up an extremely comprehensive fitting center here at the shop and at the range at our country club. We have thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment including slow motion cameras, launch monitors and other such high speed fitting equipment that help us assure you get the right fit each and every time. In addition to getting the correct fit you can also see pictures, hard numbers and hard data proving that the club fits you to a T. If you are looking for the ULTIMATE place to go to get fit for wedges the Scratch Golf Clubs Fitting Center is that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfather1 Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Ari, what type of putter is that scratch/mills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 My Scratch/Mills Proto is handmade by David Mills. It is carbon steel plated with Copper. It is based off his square mallet head design with a slightly offset slightly off center shafted hosel. It is 42" belly length with a 400 gram head. Everything was made to my exact specs and how I wanted it (just like our wedges! :love: ) I will see about getting some pics up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swing981 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 what kind of grooves are on your wedges...you can do y grooves?? what grooves are the best and will not shred the balls..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Ari any chance of posting a photo of your 62* wedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 ive had both custom scratch wedges as well as currently the gauge design 05 models! both are outstanding quality and perform very well! The grind of the gauge wedges actually suits me perfect therefore they are what i use, however scratch could exactly replicate this! In terms of feel i personally would have to say the scratch FEEL softer! and definately produce more spin and grip. i know the info suggests and the materials use say that the scratch are softer.....but whatever strange way i hit the ball, the gauge do feel softer! :confused: Having said this i havent tried ARI'S new spin milled face and super deep grooves.....therefore the latest scratch models may be one to test! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt411 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 In terms of feel i personally would have to say the scratch FEEL softer! Â the gauge do feel softer! Â :confused: Â HUH??? I think all your clubs are making you go insane. lol. matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 I had the same expereince as plus1, the scratch is made of a softer material 1018 vs 1020 but the gauge feels softer. They are both brushed satin finish but the GD's face section is designed to be the only part that rusts on the head. The CNC milled bottom 5 grooves also put a ton of spin on the ball, so much I had to dull them out a bit with the edge of a pick. I currently have the scratch's for sale while the GD forged wedges are sold out, I also do have the GAS2 and GASQBT coming but have not tested them yet. I am waiting on a set of scratch wedges that can beat out my GD forged 53* & 58*. I would love if Scratch made me a replica of the GD forged wedges, with the 5 CNC milled grooves and the rusting face while the rest of the head is in their smooth brushed satin. Until then its the GAS1 forged for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 :cool: :cool: :cool: thanks for the back up chris.....it is hard to describe feel and yes fact states that scratch are a softer metal...but the feel of the gauge is :surprize: . and one thing ive learnt is that the only way to truely compare clubs is to personally test them yourself! i would be very interested too see what anoher NON GAUGE crazed member thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance99 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hey sorry to thread jack here, but I have a bum leg and haven't been able to hit my forged GAS1's. But I didn't know just the face rusts? Thats pretty cool! How do they stop the rest from rusting? I've been only able to putt and all this golf talk is the only thing I got going right now. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hey sorry to thread jack here, but I have a bum leg and haven't been able to hit my forged GAS1's. Â But I didn't know just the face rusts? Â Thats pretty cool! Â How do they stop the rest from rusting? Â I've been only able to putt and all this golf talk is the only thing I got going right now. Â Thanks again! lance the black face rusts, but the rest of the silver head doesnt! i find that the rust can give me unreal spin, however if you are to clean out the rust and the grooves the spin is superb! i too was worried that i would have yet another set of beastly looking rusty wedges....but not with these! they ive the great characteristics of a rusty but maintain the clean look of a chrome/satin! :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hey sorry to thread jack here, but I have a bum leg and haven't been able to hit my forged GAS1's. Â But I didn't know just the face rusts? Â Thats pretty cool! Â How do they stop the rest from rusting? Â I've been only able to putt and all this golf talk is the only thing I got going right now. Â Thanks again! lance the black face rusts, but the rest of the silver head doesnt! i find that the rust can give me unreal spin, however if you are to clean out the rust and the grooves the spin is superb! i too was worried that i would have yet another set of beastly looking rusty wedges....but not with these! they ive the great characteristics of a rusty but maintain the clean look of a chrome/satin! :cool: :cool: :cool: Here, here plus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance99 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Thanks Plus for the info. Sorry once again for the thread jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Chris, Are those Gauge wedges with the 5 bottom milled grooves USGA legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Chris,Are those Gauge wedges with the 5 bottom milled grooves USGA legal? I dont know Ari, ya know the rules are different there. It would be nice to know, can you help us figure that out? BTW are you able to do a Japanese brushed satin wedge where only the face rusts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Chris,Are those Gauge wedges with the 5 bottom milled grooves USGA legal? I dont know Ari, ya know the rules are different there. It would be nice to know, can you help us figure that out? BTW are you able to do a Japanese brushed satin wedge where only the face rusts? I just called the USGA to ask and I am expecting a call back any minute. Here is a direct link to their rules concerning grooves. http://www.usga.org/playing/clubs_and_ball...upplementa.html The way I read it is that all of the grooves need to be exactly the same but you know how the rules of equipment are always open to interpretation. Ill be interested to see what they say when I get a call back. As for the raw face with the rest of the head Satin I do not see why that would be a problem but I will check on that also. We have never had anyone request that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 i too would be interested in that ari,........id definately order another scratch if you could replicate my current gas1 forged! :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 i too would be interested in that ari,........id definately order another scratch if you could replicate my current gas1 forged! :cool: If you send me your gas1 I can guarantee 100% that we can replicate it and even make it better. :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 including the grooves??? even if they are illegal in the usa? as they are not illegal in europe or japan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairwayFred Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 including the grooves??? even if they are illegal in the usa? as they are not illegal in europe or japan! yup the grooves are no problem at all we can do that on our mill. (as long as you live out of USGA jurisdiction :wink: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ok Plus1, You send Ari your heads! :laugh: That way I dont have to send him mine! Ari, Id like an exact duplicate of the GAS1 Forged in Satin with the RAW face and 5 CNC milled sharp grooves. The Satin must be the Ishi Japan Satin and I need 53* & 58* lofts. About how long will this take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ok Plus1, You send Ari your heads! :laugh: That way I dont have to send him mine! Ari, Id like an exact duplicate of the GAS1 Forged in Satin with the RAW face and 5 CNC milled sharp grooves. The Satin must be the Ishi Japan Satin and I need 53* & 58* lofts. About how long will this take? Ari im the same........and since i offered first il send the heads! :mad: lol! BUT can you estimate a time as i cant be without any wedges for a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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