+TourSpecGolfer Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 This post is in the import section because these two drivers are the non conforming plus+ versions from Japan. On the left we have the tour version, on the right the normal. Notice the sweet spot point is designated by the black dots on the face. Both drivers had the spot located very high on the face. The tour actually has its spot 1mm higher than the regular spec at 37mm. The total face height of the tour is about 40mm tall. The location of the sweet spot compared to face height is very similar to the ERG HOT and TM R5 dual. Here we see the center of gravity position on the sole. The C.O.G on the tour version is 6m more shallow than the normal spec. Images taken by Mark Kanai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowpro Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 the old saying>>>>>>>>>> TEE IT HIGH !! very high mark.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 interesting chris......yet again another driver with a high sweet spot. As for the COG...what does the shallower cog actually achieve? doe it produce a slightly lower ball flight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 OT: What is the COR rating of the "+" versions? Is that what makes them illegal for USGA play? Thanks for the pictures though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_san Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Ya the "+" means its COR is 0.860. Illegal in USGA-ruled competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 What is Center of Gravity, and How Does It Affect the Shot? The center of gravity (CG) of any object is the one small point which represents the intersection of all the possible balance points of that object. In a golf clubhead, the CG can be determined by balancing the head on its face, sole, or any place on the head – the intersection inside of the head of all these different balance points is the center of gravity of the clubhead. Because the center of gravity is a single point inside the clubhead, its location has to be defined in 3-dimensions. This means that a clubhead has a vertical CG location (how high up in the head the CG from the sole). It also has a horizontal CG location (how far over it is from the center of the shaft in the hosel of the head). Finally, the center of gravity is also defined by how far back from the face it is located. The lower the center of gravity and the farther back the center of gravity is from the face of the club, the higher the trajectory of the shot will be for any given loft angle on the clubhead. Of the two CG locations that affect the height of the shot, the CG back from the face has a greater effect on the height of the shot than does the vertical CG (up from the sole). The horizontal center of gravity location, or how far the CG is over from the center of the shaft, is a design factor that affects the accuracy of the shot. The closer the CG is to the shaft, the less tendency there will be for the golfer to push or fade the ball offline. And the farther the center of gravity is from the shaft, the more tendency there will be for the golfer to push or fade the ball offline. The reason is that the closer the center of gravity is to the shaft, the lower the moment of inertia about the shaft axis will be, and the greater the tendency will be for the golfer to rotate the face of the club less open/more closed by the time the head gets to impact with the ball. The farther the CG from the shaft, the higher the MOI will be about the shaft axis, and the greater the tendency for the golfer to leave the face of the club open/less closed by the time the head gets to impact with the ball. The center of gravity position in the clubhead is initially controlled by the height, width and breadth of the head. After that, it is influenced by how much of the head's weight is placed in different areas of the clubhead. The taller the clubhead and/or the more weight that is placed on the upper portions of the head, the higher the position of the CG will be in the head. The more shallow the clubhead and/or the more weight that is placed on the bottom or sole of the head, the lower the position of the center of gravity will be. The deeper the head shape from face to back and the more weight is positioned in the very rear of the head, the farther back the position of the center of gravity will be (and vice-versa for narrow head shapes and/or weight placed more in the face area of the head). Finally, the longer the head from heel to toe and/or the more weight that is placed out on the toe side of the head, the farther the center of gravity will be from the shaft (and conversely, the shorter the head from heel to toe and/or the more weight that is placed on the heel side of the head, the closer the CG will be to the shaft). This answer was posted by Tom Wishon on www.golf.about.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Slaughter Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 isnt this the new technology. higher cg locations in the bigger heads which forces u to tee it high and watch it fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 It kills me to see joe golfer with these 460cc heads teeing the ball low, back and with a descending swing into the ball resulting in more back spins and no distance. Play with me and you get tees of 3 1/4" long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 It kills me to see joe golfer with these 460cc heads teeing the ball low, back and with a descending swing into the ball resulting in more back spins and no distance. Play with me and you get tees of 3 1/4" long! Likewise Ben, i tee it sooo high and hit on the up! this = high launch, more carry and if you have the shaft and launch combo right more rolls too! :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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