Posted October 30, 200717 yr comment_143940 did you guys read the interview on GolfWRX? I found it informative and have a greater appreciation of their products. They provide a pretty good explanation on one of the reasons they go with spin welded hosels. http://golf wrx/BagChatter/2007/10/...ra-golf-part-1/
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143974 This is the correct URL - http://golf wrx/BagChatter/2007/10/...ra-golf-part-1/
October 31, 200717 yr Author comment_143975 this forum isn't allowing me to post the link: just go to golfwrx, it's on the front page. Edited October 31, 200717 yr by jacksonlui
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143986 VERY informative interview. After reading the part about a tighter grain structure by pressing without the hosel I had to ask technicians at 2 factories to verify this and unfortunately none agreed. One of the technicians actually learned forging at Miura many years ago. I was told that the merit of welded hosel's is for precision, If there are two part bodies (main body and hosel) the main is very easy to make with a very accurate Loft, Lie and WEIGHT. Most of the Japanese big companies request tight target weights with plus or minus one gram so the spin welded method of production is almost prefect in this regard. The Demerit is that the hosel is longer than others so the sweet spot of head moves toward neck area and in most cases compensation or an increase in size out near the toe plus reduction of weight closer to the neck is needed to balance things out. Another opinion I heard was that this is the reason they stick with players cavity backs and blades. Whatever the case Miura product rocks due to minimal output they can really provide a critical level of attention to detail, I just found it interesting Mr. Holowaty didn't mention the most well known reason's spin welded hosel's are used. Also what was left out is that Miura Drivers, Fairway woods, and Utility woods are indeed made in Taiwan.
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143987 Also what was left out is that Miura Drivers, Fairway woods, and Utility woods are indeed made in Taiwan. Notwithstanding that the wood line is made in Taiwan for Miura (a fact he does not deny or hide), if the utilities are as good as the driver and fw, just tell me how I can get it. Edited November 1, 200717 yr by Duffer19
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143988 VERY informative interview.After reading the part about a tighter grain structure by pressing without the hosel I had to ask technicians at 2 factories to verify this and unfortunately none agreed. One of the technicians actually learned forging at Miura many years ago. I was told that the merit of welded hosel's is for precision, If there are two part bodies (main body and hosel) the main is very easy to make with a very accurate Loft, Lie and WEIGHT. Most of the Japanese big companies request tight target weights with plus or minus one gram so the spin welded method of production is almost prefect in this regard. The Demerit is that the hosel is longer than others so the sweet spot of head moves toward neck area and in most cases compensation or an increase in size out near the toe plus reduction of weight closer to the neck is needed to balance things out. Another opinion I heard was that this is the reason they stick with players cavity backs and blades. Whatever the case Miura product rocks due to minimal output they can really provide a critical level of attention to detail, I just found it interesting Mr. Holowaty didn't mention the most well known reason's spin welded hosel's are used. Also what was left out is that Miura Drivers, Fairway woods, and Utility woods are indeed made in Taiwan. not sure i understand why the hosel has to be longer when welded afterwards... size of the hosel doesn't influence the welding...does it... just curious btw, anybody played the Miura Utility woods (didn't know that they had one)..how do they play... what kind of player do they target?... UW's is one where there are not enough options for the low hanicap players.... royal collection and tourstage are probably the only two out there that are truly a 5 wood/2 iron substitute for the low handicap player...
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143989 Notwithstanding that the wood line is made in Taiwan for Miura (a fact he does not deny or hide), if the utilities are as good as the driver and fw, just tell me know I can get it. looks like you have played the driver / fairway wood... how do they compare to the epon fairway wood / driver - my gold standard right now...
October 31, 200717 yr Author comment_143990 just got some baby blades from Chip yesterday and had a 6 iron built up with DGS300. they are about the same size as a Nike blade, it's just a peice of art. Did anyone measure the CG on the Miura blades to confirm that the sweetspot is near the neck?
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143991 looks like you have played the driver / fairway wood... how do they compare to the epon fairway wood / driver - my gold standard right now... I have yet to commit to the FW yet but feel wise, the Miura driver felt more solid then the Epon 460 due to his small size. it just gives a less tinsy sound and more of a soft whack. Face is mid deep since it is not a long theel to toe design. Looking forward for some spec or pic of the UT. The Miura driver looks better in real life than the picture but they should come up with a nice design HC.
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143992 just got some baby blades from Chip yesterday and had a 6 iron built up with DGS300.they are about the same size as a Nike blade, it's just a peice of art. Did anyone measure the CG on the Miura blades to confirm that the sweetspot is near the neck? I thought you said the Baby would not be out until next year. Available now is the limited tournament blade.
October 31, 200717 yr comment_143994 just got some baby blades from Chip yesterday and had a 6 iron built up with DGS300.they are about the same size as a Nike blade, it's just a peice of art. Did anyone measure the CG on the Miura blades to confirm that the sweetspot is near the neck? when you are ready to sell them, let me know.... i have many clubs to trade.....:) ... Edited October 31, 200717 yr by ajaykkr
October 31, 200717 yr Author comment_143997 They are limited numbers every year. It looks just like the tournament blade except the font is different and is 20% smaller. They are small and solid but you need a decent swing. I'm losing about 5yds on mis**ts and the DGS300 keeps it penetrating as compared to the 1150 in my TypeS. IMO, you can't make a better looking head at address. It's too much club for me but it makes it fun. I'll alternate between these and the Type S. The hosel is 2.756 inches or 70mm which is a little longer than others and the insertion depth is 1.181 inches which is pretty standard. I'll have to say that the quality of these heads and measurements were a bit better than the Epons. I don't think you can get a better cavity back than the Type S and a better blade than the baby blades.
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