Wedges - Conforming Grooves

[TheHawkmc]

Which Japanese wedges are offered this year in conforming grooves? Any change Geotech wedges will have this option?

[gocchin]

Which Japanese wedges are offered this year in conforming grooves? Any change Geotech wedges will have this option?

Most Japanese offerings coming out this year probably will. The rules change left many JDM brands scrambling. The Vokey CC are the first wedges to have the grooves. Most likely the rest will follow like the MT28 V5 and so on. Not sure about Geotech but will ask them.

[pca168]

IS PPM have conforming grooves?

[Spoon]

IS PPM have conforming grooves?

good question. im curious as well.

probably not though as conforming grooves were the last thing in mind when this custom set was planned. i could be wrong though

Edited January 18, 2010 by Spoon

[gocchin]

IS PPM have conforming grooves?

I doubt the PPM's are conforming since almost every JDM brand did not conform with 2009 releases. Does it matter for you though? Are you trying to qualify for the US Open? (^_^)

[+TourSpecGolfer]

I hit the TVD CC vs the previous TVD and I am 120% against the new groove rule.

I feel like spin is reduced by 20+%

[Spoon]

I doubt the PPM's are conforming since almost every JDM brand did not conform with 2009 releases. Does it matter for you though? Are you trying to qualify for the US Open? (^_^)

i hear you. i hear so many folks taking a pass on very good jdm exotica because of the new groove rule. at times its bordering on obsessive .

[gocchin]

i hear you. i hear so many folks taking a pass on very good jdm exotica because of the new groove rule. at times its bordering on obsessive .

Just a note, when I say most models are not conforming I mean for the rules that apply Jan 1st, 2010 in other words for professional play and US Open qualification.

I think the problem is that most people do not understand how the groove rule affects them. For most recreational and amateur players it doesn't... yet.

1. "The rules apply to clubs manufactured after Jan. 1, 2010, the same year that the USGA will enforce the new regulations through a condition of competition for the U.S. Open, U.S. Women's Open and U.S. Senior Open and each of their qualifying events. All USGA amateur championships will apply the new regulations through the condition of competition, after Jan. 1, 2014."

2. "Clubs manufactured prior to Jan. 1, 2010 that conform to current regulations will continue to be considered conforming to the USGA Rules of Golf until at least 2024. This includes clubs purchased after that date from manufacturers' existing model ranges. (According to the Darrell Survey of consumer golf equipment only two percent of irons in use are older than 15 years.) So long as these clubs continue to be conforming they may be used for establishment and maintenance of a USGA Handicap Index."

So almost every wedge in the pro shop now, even older models technically conform as long as you are not trying to qualify for the US Open or playing professionally.

[Duffer19]

i hear you. i hear so many folks taking a pass on very good jdm exotica because of the new groove rule. at times its bordering on obsessive .

I am very surprised that so many are trying to qualify for the US Open.

[TheHawkmc]

I doubt the PPM's are conforming since almost every JDM brand did not conform with 2009 releases. Does it matter for you though? Are you trying to qualify for the US Open? (^_^)

The answer is yes. I've got a few Champions Tour Monday qualifiers and US Open qualifying scheduled this spring/summer. I'd rather practice with what I'll have to play.

I'm actually looking forward to changing back to grooves more like what I grew up with, finding the softest ball around and using trajectory vs. spin around the greens!

[gocchin]

The answer is yes. I've got a few Champions Tour Monday qualifiers and US Open qualifying scheduled this spring/summer. I'd rather practice with what I'll have to play.

I'm actually looking forward to changing back to grooves more like what I grew up with, finding the softest ball around and using trajectory vs. spin around the greens!

(^_^) That "does it matter" question was actually directed at pca168 but I figured it mattered for you since you were asking which is why I initially reply that those coming out this year will conform.

Do you some wedges in mind? February will see a lot of conforming releases.

[TheHawkmc]

(^_^) That "does it matter" question was actually directed at pca168 but I figured it mattered for you since you were asking which is why I initially reply that those coming out this year will conform.

Do you some wedges in mind? February will see a lot of conforming releases.

Probably opt for Tourstage, Epon, Miura or Fourteen in that order based on experience. Prefer a lower bounce 53/58 combination, but with deeper flanger and radius sole with heel ground down. Thanks for your suggestions...