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5 iron is 38", standard lie. I beleive the MB-2 were forged by Kyeoi. Chris might know. Don't know difference with MB-3 since have seen them before.

These have had very limited play. No real bag chatter either. They need a real home!

Gauge Design MB-2's 3-PW, Nippon 1150 Stiff shafts, Golf Pride cord tour wraps, excellent condition. A classic Japanese forged set of irons. The quality and craftsmanship are second to none with as solid feel as any iron I've played (including Miura and Mizuno), but I'm recovering from back surgery and these irons need an owner who can use and appreciate them. $600 + $25 shipping CONUS, OBO.

Thread was not yanked, but move to another forum and closed. History of discussion is still there.

Corky3, there were some Miura forged Cleveland 588's made in 2007 that were great. Very typical Miura solid feel, but 588 grinds. Much different that what is typically seen in US with Cleveland.

I'll have to see if any of your wincs make it to my part of the world. Love a good cab. As you adjust to new grooves and softer balls in the next few years, check out instruction info from one of your countryman, Peter Croker. He taught me some neat short shots back in the mid-90s. The man had great control of both his wedge face and the angle of attack. Produced a high, soft lob, but with an aggressive motion.

Vineman, Good questions and two reasons on my side for getting 2010 conforming grooves. First, I'm a former professional and had planned to play this year in a few events that require conforming grooves. That was before back surgery earlier this week, ouch! Still hopeful in completing later in year. Second, is that despite much practice, I am not as consistent with pitch and lob shots with newer, grabbier U shaped grooves. Growing up I was taught to use the clubface and trajectory to produce shots, feeling the ball roll up the face more and landing shots to either run out or be ultra soft ('like a butterfly with sore feet'). With today's wedges the grooves grab sooner and produce a flatter trajectory. As much as I've practiced, I cannot get as consistent of results in launch angle and spin rate as I used to with older wedges. I even practiced last year with a 40+ year old wedge to get my confidence back. I've lost those 'go to' shots I grew up with around the greens. I look forward to conforming grooves and softer balls (try to play the softest), because I'll be able to start playing the shots I grew up with again. Simple as that. Hope that explains my reasons. btw - nice occupation vineman23...what part of Australia are you in? love some of cab blends I've had.

Can I customize shafts (Nippon or KBS wedge shafts with Iomic grips) or should I just take stock and reshaft on my side? Thank you,

Chris, PM sent last night of what I'm leaning towards if you can accommodate. I would like to see topline photos of actual lofts of PRGR TR (58/52) before I buy. Thank you and everyone else for many excellent suggestions.

Are the grooves the new conforming v grooves? I have a few tournaments this year where I need them.

I agree, the rounder grind probably gives it that look on the ONOFF. Had a 52* like that once before and could never adjust. The PRGR TR just look straighter, although I've not seen the 52 & 58 yet. I learned a long time ago not to fight what looks good at address. In the heat of competition I need to clubs to feel very comfortable and frame the balls well. That said, the ONOFF are a great looking set, just not for me.

Thanks Vineman. I found an topline photo of the ONOFF 52 today online and it looked like more offset than my preference. It is more rounded than the PRGR TR, but I actually like the PRGR shape. Good flow with my MP-68's. Thanks again for the information.

Chris, When are the ONOFF and EPON's available. I really do like the grind on the PRGR, but the photos are of 56/60 and I play 52/58. Any chance I can see photos of those two lofts from above (topline view). If they look good, can I get them shafted in either a Nippon or KBS wedge shaft with Iomic grips. You were right about my Miura 588's. A very nice, solid feeling and versatile set of wedges. The '06 Tourstage 58 was a good wedge, but the 52 grind was too 'onset' for me. I prefer a straighter neck. They were not nearly as solid as the Scratch's I bought from you in '05 or the Miura's in '06. As you can see I haven't bought new wedges in three years and very overdo! Just had back surgery Monday and the doctot said I can begin putting in 4 weeks, chipping in 6 weeks. That's my target time frame to have a new set here. It's keeping me focused on getting well. Thanks,

Can you at least hint in terms of grind to last years? I thought the 208KGX grind was nice looking, but also too mid-sized, teardrop shaped and needed more heel and toe relief. Did they change it much in overall shape/grind? I'm leaning toward the PRGR TR for the clean, compact look, good trailing and heel relief and also flows well with my iron set.

Wow, those are great looking irons. Who forges them? Almost wish I hadn't just bought a new set of Mizuno's.

Chris, Thank you for the recommendations. Assuming similar grinds to existing '09 for ONOFF and Sky Dream, I like the grinds on the PRGR TR and Fourteen V5's the best so far. My last two wedge sets have been '06 Tourstage X-Wedges and '07 Cleveland Miura 588's (both purchased here at TSG). Of the PRGR and Fourteen, what will these feel like in comparison? Do you have any photos from above (topline view) that I can see before purchasing (don't mean to be pushy, but I'm anxious to get some new wedges ordered). Thank you again,

I need some new wedges this spring. I'd like to get a 53/58 (or 52/58) combination with the new conforming v grooves. I was thinking about either the Fourteen V5's, PRGR TR's or possibly Scratch (53-PDG, 58-EGG grinds). I prefer lower bounce, heel and trailing relief, but normal to deeper overall flange, thin topline, neither round nor square shaped, but in between. I'm a forged iron guy and like softer feeling wedges (just got the new MP-68 blades and they are the more solid, forgiving blades I've ever hit). Are there any other wedge I should consider that will be available this spring. Also, anyone know it TSG Proshop is going to carry the new Fourteen V5's. Sent Chris and Gocchin pm's, but didn't get response. Thanks for your suggestions,

Very Nice.....any topline views. What grooves do they come with?

Chris, Any topline views of the 58* & 52* wedges. I'm ready to order based on the 'golf to impress' review, but would like to see pics of the actual lofts I play. Thanks,

Probably opt for Tourstage, Epon, Miura or Fourteen in that order based on experience. Prefer a lower bounce 53/58 combination, but with deeper flanger and radius sole with heel ground down. Thanks for your suggestions...

The answer is yes. I've got a few Champions Tour Monday qualifiers and US Open qualifying scheduled this spring/summer. I'd rather practice with what I'll have to play. I'm actually looking forward to changing back to grooves more like what I grew up with, finding the softest ball around and using trajectory vs. spin around the greens!

Which Japanese wedges are offered this year in conforming grooves? Any change Geotech wedges will have this option?

3-PW Miura CB-1006's. Nippon 1150 Tour X shafts (similar flex to S300) which are silky smooth (5 iron 38"). Lamkin StingFree grips 1/32 oversized. Plus, Carbon weave ferrules are a great completion to a nice set of irons. Very good condition (see photos) with only bag chatter wear. Here's an opportunity to have a set of forged cavity back's from the Japanese Master, Katsuhiro Miura. These are the most solid, workable cavity backs I've ever played, plus very forgiving. They feature a thin topline, minimal offset and muscle hump in the cavity for enhanced feel and control. Hate to part with these, but got a new set for X-mas and there's no room in the closet with all my putters!! $600 shipped CONUS OBO (can ship internationally for additional charge)

Just picked up a nice, used 2007 X-Drive 430P, but it didn't come with headcover. Anyone know where I can find one?

compared to what I grew up playing ('76 Wilson Staff blades) everything mentioned here including old Mizuno's ALL have a thicker topline. Even my Miura CB-1006's that Chris sold me are thicker than my preference!!