gbs Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) Just want to warn you guys. As Tario mentioned before we should really care for our crazy and quadra shafts. These shafts are good but pretty fragile. Mine broke when a bag fell on it. :'( tried to attach a pic but seems to fail... Edited November 5, 2010 by gbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Just want to warn you guys. As Tario mentioned before we should really care for our crazy and quadra shafts. These shafts are good but pretty fragile. Mine broke when a bag fell on it. :'( tried to attach a pic but seems to fail... That's interesting. These shafts seem pretty sturdy to me. But then I didn't have a bag fall on it. I guess it depends on the bag, how big and how much it weighed, and also the angle at which it impacted the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 got a related kinda question here. since winter is upon us how those high end shafts react to low temperatures ? i dont mean extremely low but say 0 to -10 C range, neither how it affects shaft performance, if it does that is, but is it safe to use them in low temperatures without the risk of them snapping or something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodsie Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Extra care is "needed" for both the Crazy Shaft and the Quadra Shaft. Having fine tuned many Crazy and Quadra Shafts in my Shop, I have observed that in the tip section, the walls of the Shaft are thinner than other exotic Shafts. This is clearly visible when prepping the tip (.335) as the hole is larger. This is probably the result of the engineering/design of using the 80T Carbon. Remember, also, that both of these Shafts have glass particles in the tip section instead of the usual rubber particles. One of my customers did break his Crazy Shaft by leaning on his Driver as he bent over to put the tee in the ground. We've all done this....using our Driver as a prop as we tee it up. Just be aware of the thin walled tip section and don't put downward pressure or lean on the Shaft as you can up the odds of breaking the Shaft in the tip section. When I ship Clubs with the Crazy or Quadra, I take special care to carefully pack the Club to avoid any pressure on the head. For those of you who travel a lot and take your Clubs, put the head of the Driver down in the bottom of the Golf Bag then put it in the Travel Case. We all have experienced the lack of care that Airlines/Shippers have shown when we give our Babies to them for safe keeping........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Extra care is "needed" for both the Crazy Shaft and the Quadra Shaft. Having fine tuned many Crazy and Quadra Shafts in my Shop, I have observed that in the tip section, the walls of the Shaft are thinner than other exotic Shafts. This is clearly visible when prepping the tip (.335) as the hole is larger. This is probably the result of the engineering/design of using the 80T Carbon. Remember, also, that both of these Shafts have glass particles in the tip section instead of the usual rubber particles. One of my customers did break his Crazy Shaft by leaning on his Driver as he bent over to put the tee in the ground. We've all done this....using our Driver as a prop as we tee it up. Just be aware of the thin walled tip section and don't put downward pressure or lean on the Shaft as you can up the odds of breaking the Shaft in the tip section. When I ship Clubs with the Crazy or Quadra, I take special care to carefully pack the Club to avoid any pressure on the head. For those of you who travel a lot and take your Clubs, put the head of the Driver down in the bottom of the Golf Bag then put it in the Travel Case. We all have experienced the lack of care that Airlines/Shippers have shown when we give our Babies to them for safe keeping........ I recently bought a head cover that protects the tip of the shaft. It is like a hard case, the driver,fw,hybrid heads slide in then you clip the shaft at the end of the headcover. The salesperson told me that it will help protect the tip of the shaft which is most vulnerable. I will try to post some pics... Anyone has problems posting pics?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Gary (Goodsie) was pretty much right on the money with his explanation. The tip section walls are indeed thinner and that is one of the reasons for the shafts' explosive performance. And the key is the glass particles in the shaft, they do not flex as easily as rubber particles in lower end shafts and this is the reason also they have such consistent timing and less deformation and rounding. ant - will you be out playing golf in -10C temperatures? I don't know many players who will so that's a scenario I don't have an answer for though if you hit the frozen ground fat it could hurt any club. (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 i dont think i'll be able to actually play but practicing off the mat is what i had in mind. they might open some places here once day temperature goes into plus range or so. some folks around here go pretty extreme or silly depending on how you look at it ;) check this out http://www.snowgolfcup.com what you guys do in Japan for the winter ? i heard it doesnt get too warm over there either, like close to zero degrees on average maybe ? ant - will you be out playing golf in -10C temperatures? I don't know many players who will so that's a scenario I don't have an answer for though if you hit the frozen ground fat it could hurt any club. (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMan Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 tried to attach a pic but seems to fail... Anyone has problems posting pics?? B, It might be a combination of the file size of the pics you're trying to upload plus your internet connection speed. The internet connection at home has been really shoddy lately & I wasn't able to upload any pics until I resized them below 1MB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Golf around tokyo in winter is perfectly fine apart from a cpl of days. Its super chilly and usually no wind to speak of and dry super dry. The ground isnt the nicest to hit from but compared to high summer Its actually really nice to play in. Have to keep the mittens on between shots most of the time bec. Hands freeze easily. Temps are about 2- 6c so its ok the mountin courses are all closed for snow but ifu go south its tropical , so no probs we play all yr and threres No drop off in traffic. the course gets really parched brown but the chemicals these guys use keeps the fairways green the greens are lightning! I love winter golf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Typically winter temps here in Chiba average around 6-8C with Jan and Feb getting a few days around 2-5C. We rarely see snow. Maybe light snow twice in 2 years. Next week is forecasted to be around 21-22C which is still pretty good for November. They key is, as Stewart knows, courses here are meticulously maintained. People pay a lot for golf so the the conditions of the courses even in the winter are always top notch. Southern Japan as far south as Okinawa stays around 20-22C all through the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 gotta try it this winter, weather permitting and all. maybe just play to green only to stay on the move and keep warm. standing around in thermals and thin fleece kinda wear could get very uncomfy especially in cold wind or when there is no direct sunlight and i hate wearing bulk clothing when playing, even light windbreaker feels restrictive to me. no issue when practicing of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I think that's the key here too, as long as its not windy, and the sun's out, if the round is going at a good pace it's easy to stay warm even in single digit temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPONfreak Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 bugger that! just come down here and play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 bugger that! just come down here and play! hahahahahahaha, good idea infact........, i will be doing JUST that in mid dec till mid jan . cant wait! 21 in 21 is that possible????? hows this sound week 1 ...,nsw--terry hills---royal sydney--long reef---australian---cromer---elanora week 2..., commonwealth---royal melb---kingston heath---the national----metroplolitan---barnbugle dunes(x2) week 3...,lake karinyup--- cottesloe-- wa gc---- the cut--- joondalup---ELLERSTON..(x2) might have to give the game up if that ever happened thefe would d be nothing left to play for could die a happy fella with that under my belt. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPONfreak Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) now that's a golf trip, I've played all those WA courses and WAGC was my home course for years.........I've only played the cut in bad whether and decided there was a letter missing from its name......... Edited November 2, 2010 by EPONfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 now that's a golf trip, I've played all those WA courses and WAGC was my home course for years.........I've only played the cut in bad whether and decided there was a letter missing from its name......... hahha, it doesnt look the friendliest or easiest course on earth. the look on JL'S face on the 18th gives it away pretty sure hes thinking for gawdsakes facing curlty in me frist test at the wacca and getting meloned was a lot bloody easier than this thng! bring it on, if ican get a cpl of days r and r over there ill def play that puppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPONfreak Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Having faced a West Indian quick years ago I have to disagree, I would rather play Beth Page Black than relive that experience! NOT for the faint hearted, it's terrifying actually, you can't die playing golf but I'm pretty sure Otis was doing his level best to knock my head off and damn nearly did, it's amazing how quick your footwork becomes when 5 1/4 oz is coming at your throat at 155kph! The cut is under new management and is apparently in good nick these days. If you do get over, don't leave Port Kennedy off your list, it's a true links course and most challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Finally i got the pics up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukok Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 How high was your bag when it fell on it !! I have to admit I treat my crazy with kid gloves and am very consious when picking up my tee not to lean on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 bugger that! just come down here and play! maybe in perth in feb , maybe we could head down joondalup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 How high was your bag when it fell on it !! I have to admit I treat my crazy with kid gloves and am very consious when picking up my tee not to lean on it. I honestly am not sure, i lent my driver to a friend and that happened. Oh well. :) Should not be that high i guess but got it at the right spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seesawgolfer Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Man that shaft is broken in 4 places!! Are you sure he didn't run it over with the car? Maybe you were winning too many bets and he had to destroy your secret weapon!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 yeah, wow, havent seen anything like that. must be all that glass like it was mentioned earlier. really, they gotta put a big fat red sticker on those at the factory so that people are aware how fragile those things are and how they should be careful unless they have a tour van with a bunch of backups following them around. Man that shaft is broken in 4 places!! Are you sure he didn't run it over with the car? Maybe you were winning too many bets and he had to destroy your secret weapon!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I have owned several Crazy shafts as have many forum members here and personally have not had a problem. To break a shaft whether it be Crazy or any other shaft like that has to be pretty extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPONfreak Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 My colleague broke his LY01 just by leaning on it to tee his ball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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