Mjr. D Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 For the wedge that produces the absolute most spin, no matter what type of shot. I'm assuming the non any of the non-conforming wedges spin more than any of the conforming wedges... Out of these wedges, what's your vote? Epon KGX (black finish) Gold's Factory Kemochi Black Forged (non conforming) YURURI KEIGEKIKU Tour Wedge (non conforming) Kyoei Zestaim Something from Chikara SKy Dream Jump D-tour Sky Dream Jump D-Tour Type Bite SKy Dream Jump DP2010 Something from Miura Something else not mentioned... I used to have Epon KGX's with the black finish and they spun more than any wedge I've tried. Would like something that produces even more! Please help me out guys! Appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 How abt a sub minister for finance? Kyoei raw spin like hell sakamoto wedges are the spinnuest ive hit big thick the grooves are huge the crazues i hit at the factory seemed pretty mad but i didnt hit em om grass so cant say def yes but on mats i was gulping if coin no object they gotta be close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I'm not sure if your playing in USGA events but you want to watch out because some brands still use illegal grooves. Especially the smaller ones to get the edge. Of those you have mentioned. IMO the best would be the Sky Dream Jump & Yururi. Some others I think you should consider are: - RC DB Forged - Akira H2 (spins like crazy) - ONOFF S-Forged - Geotech Tour Issue Bite Of the above I rank the Akira best in spin and most compact. RC DB forged most forgiving and great all around I personally would go for the ONOFF S-Forged, I'm addicted to it's shape. Geotech has a great design, lots of spin, and a good price not to mention it's made in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thanks for the help, Supo, it's just called Kyoei Raw wedge? Chris, which model of the Sky Dream Jump spins the most? They would spin more than the Yururi and AKira, you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCMB Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Wouldn't gold's be able to do something custom with sone absurd non conforming grooves? I would think something like that would spin most just because he could custom make the wedges with crazier grooves than any stock wedge would have, if you wanted that..... TT spinner wedge shaft really helps any wedge spin wise, it does exactly what they say it does, not the best feeling wedge shaft out there though..... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 My hand made Stage 5 Gold's Factory spins the most. You have to be careful running you hand along the face of the club.... if you press to hard it will will shave the skin off.. very sharp.... The Yamaha Wedges I just sold are amongst the most spin of any wedge and made of S15C, they are non conforming. Conforming: The new SDJ's are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 kyoei rafw 01- 08 dependning on what shape u like they are all differnt the 01s are big offset buckets. the sw is as good as anything ever to get out of a soft deep sanded bunker. the rafw 08 are small compact pro heads u hit down on those ,they back up faster than a sheep on a cliff with a farmer aporaching . and they are great value. raw finish just makes the balls scream the rafw 01s are prib the cleanest of te line the 03s are just a bit bigger with small of set. the 07s small ehad hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooge of set , the best wedges in oz in wind , i use these al lthe time point shoot low low piercing wedge shot. love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Weird, I had Epon kGX wedges and they spun a TON, IMO. Now I have Gold's Factory wedges and they don't spin even close to as much... IMO Ok so it's down the Sakamotos (don't like the look of them, though) Kyoei Raw - Never seen them - does TSG sell these? Sky Dream Jump - whatever model spins the most Am I missing anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 TSg have th kyoei what about thsoe chikaras on BST ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 They do? I don't see them on there... The Chikuras look really nice..... how do they compare for spin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 R U after conforming or non conforming or just whatever spins the most?? A few years back the Gold's Factory wedges were available in different models.... the stage 5 was his "hand made" and spun way more than the "regular" wedges. At $400 a pop they didn't disappoint. Chipping indoors in the house the club still marks up the ball.....I can flop it over the couch and have it stop before it hits the window.... none of the other wedges will do that..... As JMCMB said, the Master could make anything you want..... spin away!!!! Chikira's spin as much as any wedge.... at least the proto's i have do. My son's Kenmochi spins way more than the Spin milled it replaced..... a lot more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 jeff just reminded me of a point here the kenmochi s grind is so versatile, so "crisp" the amount of spin is realtive to the shot u want. with a 52* it might be beter to get a 2 jump hop stop shot with a 58 from a 20 yardl shot its might be better to be able to get the toe shot to stop dead no jump. the kenochis grind is just awsome esp for the 58* seriously the bollllox. i find the KM grind to be so good in 58* toe shots stop dead that s the kind of spin thtas usefull does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yes golds can make insane illegal grooves that will give you max spin. I just spoke with sasaya-san about that a few weeks ago. Kyoei's are a spin off of the Yururi Raw's. Yururi asked Kyoei to produce it for them and Kyoei saw that it was the next trend and copied their blade and wedge. Not sure how you feel about that. Here's my take: Kyoei, Sakamoto, & Kenmochi lack attention to detail and top notch manufacturing. They are basically like all the other open model wedges on the market. Geotech Tour Issue BITE although cheaper still sit a level above them and imo produce more spin. ONOFF Sky Dream DB Forged Yamaha Crazy Gold's Factory Yonex Miura these you get what you pay for. If you want illegal grooves send one of the above wedges to Sasaya-san for some modifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 My hand made Stage 5 Gold's Factory spins the most. You have to be careful running you hand along the face of the club.... if you press to hard it will will shave the skin off.. very sharp.... The Yamaha Wedges I just sold are amongst the most spin of any wedge and made of S15C, they are non conforming. Conforming: The new SDJ's are amazing. Would definitly throw in these 07 Yamahas. They really spin. Good luck finding one;) Btw Jeff, haven't received them yet. But they are on the way;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Yes golds can make insane illegal grooves that will give you max spin. I just spoke with sasaya-san about that a few weeks ago. Kyoei's are a spin off of the Yururi Raw's. Yururi asked Kyoei to produce it for them and Kyoei saw that it was the next trend and copied their blade and wedge. Not sure how you feel about that. Here's my take: Kyoei, Sakamoto, & Kenmochi lack attention to detail and top notch manufacturing. They are basically like all the other open model wedges on the market. Geotech Tour Issue BITE although cheaper still sit a level above them and imo produce more spin. ONOFF Sky Dream DB Forged Yamaha Crazy Gold's Factory Yonex Miura these you get what you pay for. If you want illegal grooves send one of the above wedges to Sasaya-san for some modifications. Chris, Kyoei lack attention to detail and top notch manufacturing!? I thought it was Mizuno, Epon, Miura and Kyoei at the forefront of forgings? Looking for the most spin... nothing else... so most likely non conforming. BUT... if there's a conforming wedge out there that spins more than a non conforming, that's fine with me! Ok so out of these, which should I go for... Non conforming Sky Dream Jump (I guess the "bite" version spins the most...) non conforming Chikura Gold's - Modifed (I already ordered them with "max spin grooves" though..) Kyoei raw Kenmochi I'd like to nail this down and get some ordered so help me out! Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'd rather stick with Jspec gear, but i've also heard the non conforming Cleveland CG15 with it's zip groves, the Callaway X Jaws and the new Mizuno MP T-11 all spin like crazy. Also i'm looking for 52, 56, 60. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 What about Hakusa wedges? Good or crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 im pretty sure hakusa are kyoei blanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I still say drop kenmochi, kyoei, hakusa. Akira for max spin with legal grooves, Sky Dream for ilegal grooves. Sasaya-san can make grooves that are crazy sharp, like unreasonable sharp per your request. sup sup super ilegal! I would consider Yamaha or RC with golds modified grooves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Cool, and the SDJ are ahead of the Chikaras? So Chris, what's SDJ's highest spinning model? The D-Tour WS, the D-Tour Type Bite or the DP2010 (Dampalloy)? What's the benefit of Dampalloy... seems strange... Also, can they do a custom 60*? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCMB Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think that'll really depend on how your swing matches the grind/bounce of the wedge, I would have no idea which manufacturer makes wedges that spin the most,I haven't tried them all(I'm working on it though, lol), but I know Chris stated that for non conformers, it'll be Sky Dream.... So if your going to go with non conforming Sky Dreams, pick the model that has the bounce and sole grind that best suits your swing, and it will def generate the most spin... Received the non conforming Yururi Tours last week, and they spin very well, but more important to me is that they're very accurate, and I can generate the amount of spin I want from shot to shot very easily.... I also ordered the Yamaha wedges with the new Crazy steel 120 wedge shafts, should have them soon, I'll post how they go.... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thanks man. I don't know too much about "bounce".... in terms of what I like and what I don't like, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 chris whats the cost to get some grooves done. id love to send my yamahas to get a bit more bite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Can someone clue me in on what version of the Sky Dream Jump non conforming wedges spin the most.... Also, anyone tried the dampalloy... what's the point of using it? Good? Bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Can someone clue me in on what version of the Sky Dream Jump non conforming wedges spin the most.... Also, anyone tried the dampalloy... what's the point of using it? Good? Bad? I don't know about the other SDJ models but do have a 51* and 56* D2010. Please note that D2010 is cast and not forged but does feel as soft as forged. Whether it spins more than others, I think, would depend on type of players and type swing. I do find the D2010 bites better than other due to its non conforming grooves and spin mill face. The latest comparison is against a new Geotech GT Bite v2. I find that the SDJ still spins more than the Geotech even with extra score lines (conforming). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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