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the big kahoonas .............., driver length


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Hi I Drive

How did you rate it feel wise in your vast experience of JDM Drivers.

Are you going to keep trying it ?

I love the feel of it but compared it today against the Crazy 435 and it is a fair bit shorter.

Going to try a different shaft as risk Versus reward just not there for me.

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Blader x stop whatir thinkinf right now

im at the range . If u have thep9 put it in the kpx dont muck around . This thing wins

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The jBeam and KP-X are great combination of forgiveness, distance and feel. The Epon Zero would top in feel but it does not hit anywhere on the top of the charts for distance or forgiveness. It would be interesting to try all of them in the exact same shaft.

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hmmmm well ive almost done that with the diamana X

doesnt matter what head goes on that shaft, it plays superbly. its great on the epon zero and its so controlled in the kp-x

i gamed the 44inch 10.5* GD p9003x yesterday in great conditions yesterday at my home course.

i had the epon zero diamana x , and the ryoma ls noir at hand , but plummed for the kp-x instead.

the ball soars, huge high arcs, but a good flight not a lot of backspin. massive carry. completely differnt to last weeks crazy 435 on same course. distance was righ dead smack up there with the 435 . almost identical, and with the wind dare i say it .. well ..., it wasnt shorter thats for certain, had 2 career lenght drives on certian holes ,

but the control i had with it was more noticeable than its distance!

the head on the kp-x is very forgiving!

i had my power fade thing going on again yesterday. that , i can control,

for the life of me i cant hit a draw.

ive stopped trying ala KJ choi

but the overall distance i get with the fade ,adn the cfontrol i got , seriosuly dont need it, will trade an extra 10-15 yards distance for this control 100% of the time

the 44 inch was a bit "interesting" to begin with, i def noticed the lack of club length at address, felt like i had a big headed 3 wood in my hand the whole day. not a driver.

so i slowed down my swing tempo and concentrated on hittign thru the ball with consistant results.

the control i gained by not having to choke down 2 inchs was noticeable and by hitting the club at "full" shaft length the hip turn thru the ball i gained totally made for any seeming lack of shaft length. over lall i hit htis club with a lot more consistancy.

loving it!

i will play this in high summer every game when its hot steamy and no wind and the grass is full and thick. to get the most carry.

im even more impressed with this driver head. is til maintain the p9003x is at my zenith of ability . im not fast wenough to get the maximum out of it. when i really ahd a good go and got the ball centered i got massive shotss off, and yetserday i was hitting the middle on just about ever yshot. but this shaft has so much more to give that i cant reach.

the funny thng is i can use this build as a second driver with no probs and drop the 3 iron. game the 435 or the ryoma for amximum control and use this one as the bomber or the palcement tool

geee im getting might used to playing shorter and shorter drivers.

i think i will build this driver with the crazy sigma 50 ls 7.7.. i think its a bit softer and i will prob get a bit more kick and itwill be slightly easier to play.... nad dare isay it prob longer

results ARE results . regardless of what the pundits say

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cant speak any more just play it. the 9.5* is LOW i played around with the shaft and weight combo on sat. still ahvnt got that wired properly to game it. needs more tweeking.

prob with a stiffer shaft, havethe bb7s and tis a bit theatical. the 60x seems to be a better flex for me

thats a good idea....

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cant speak any more just play it. the 9.5* is LOW i played around with the shaft and weight combo on sat. still ahvnt got that wired properly to game it. needs more tweeking.

prob with a stiffer shaft, havethe bb7s and tis a bit theatical. the 60x seems to be a better flex for me

thats a good idea....

cant speak any more just play it. the 9.5* is LOW i played around with the shaft and weight combo on sat. still ahvnt got that wired properly to game it. needs more tweeking.

prob with a stiffer shaft, havethe bb7s and tis a bit theatical. the 60x seems to be a better flex for me

thats a good idea....

How would you compare the KP-X 10.5 with the Ryoma 9.5 lower or higher ball flight?

The Ryoma is a 0.5* open the KP-X is not. Which is easer to draw and is more forgiving and longer?

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Can the Zero really be that hard to hit? Harder than, say, the 200-250cc heads from yesteryear? Or is it just harder to hit compared to the modern 460cc heads?

Reading about it makes me think it's like hitting an old school Macgregor blade 1 iron fitted to a 40 inch X100 shaft..?

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Hello Supo,

How would you compare the KP-X 10.5 with the Ryoma 9.5 lower or higher ball flight?

The Ryoma is a 0.5* open the KP-X is not. Which is easer to draw and is more forgiving and longer?

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the 10.5* kp-x is higher, signicantly. vs the 9.5* ryoma with my shafts in them mind you, (i dont play the stock shafts)

id think everyting is easier to draw that thew ryoma, that just goes straight.

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Sorry Stew, to my group here in Vegas the KPX isn't anything special we have 2 right now one with a DJ6 & one with a CB50 in it. We pretty much were intrigued by your posts and brought them in. You get us excited often.

below average forgiveness

Nice spin rates but more than the Jbeam 425 Tour.

average distance

average feel

Were not sure if we would put this in our top 10. I'm playing to a 12 right now and our other testers are both 0/1. Have you tried the new/old Akira models. The KPX reminds me of them.

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yea i had the akira proto m009 that was the worst driver id ever hit.

well u know what i have in my arsenal , and im gravitating to this thing right now. with all manner of shaft combos.. the p9003x has been the best so far, at 44 inch , this shaft in the jbeam 435 for my SS was too much , too tough , too heavy to get best results.

the quadra fex in the 9.5 at 45 was really really long, i just couldnt control it going right. but thats the trouble i always have. and the fex and i kinda get very right a lot .

try play around with some weight combos in it bec im not kiding im killing this thing ..

like i said tho im trying to get th 9.5 wired properly . i think im going to go shorter length with it to get some better control. its worked wonders in the 10.5* ..

and as u know i favour nothing but the best results ...

thsi thing is giving it to me in amlpe quantities. might be the combo of ther heavier shaft???

iknow where i hit the ball on my home track with all my drivers and thsi thing is righ up there with every one, and imn getting it centered more than the others.

im going to try the crazy sigma i n the 9.5 an d play it at 44.5 ish.. see how that goes... the bb7s aint working right now

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The one that reminds us of the KPX is the K109 by Akira.

For tats it was the K109 for me I like the M209. Have you seen these?

I think one thing we all need to remember is that Stew is a power hitter. ( there should be a disclaimer in his signature that says he's a bomber! ) Of course we all get different results. If you swing 100mph and your go with a KPX w/ Diamana X or Sigma 9.5 you better be ready for some major dissapointment. For me at 101ish. It was a fade machine with better than average spin.

None of our TSG testers swing like you Stew thats prob why we don't always agree on club selection.

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i had a very very brief interlude intio akira... the m109 proto with quardra fex...

unless uhit the centre of the centre of the centre at 1.5 smash factor.. u were dead.

hit one of these at longy that went 100 yards forwards and 300 backwards right ended up in the bombora!

it was the most unhittable driver for humans. it soured my taste completely for thier drivers

the wedegs tho... they were good!

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my newest toy seems to be very well balanced ! A Yamaha v202 ( non-tour ) with a crzy ly02.......pretty good length, very nice feel and forgiving.....If i had to complain about something,it is that it is hard to move the ball, it seems this club prefers to go straight ! this club rivals the crazy 435 II for best balanced club ! The crazy is a wee bit longer but the yammy is better feeling and a wee bit more forgiving ! Control is about the same for both !

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Havt played this yrs non tour yammy,but I think distance the 2011 gets it, toverthis yrs

This yrs is eaasier to hit. I think. I hardley missthe v202tour but I just think I can eek a few more yardsout, the yammy heads lovecrazyshafts allthe ones ive used in yammy suit perfrctly

I kinda liken the yammy tour headto the yonex nextage from acplof yrsaago what was ryo thinkingchanging that to the newone????????

not the longest out there but what. A greatheadthatwas

And this yrs yammys arethe best yet.

If its my goalto get to one ofeach o fhe driver heads and matchit with the oerfect comboshaftthentheyaammy gets the cb50thats unbeatable in tht head at my ss of108ish

Anyway its the ryoma cb80ls noir turn this weekend see if ican rekindle some magic

Quietly confident it wil

Go ok

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theres been a glaring exemption form this list that getting rectified as we speak.....

jbeam 425 tour 9.5* head.

ive been contemplating what to do with this baby.

the shafts i have to decide upon were the :

crazy boron X

diamana stinger 70 X or S

diamana X 70s

graphite design 60 X

roddio shingo spec m6 proto X

crazy sigma 50 7.7

crazy 80 ls noir 8.2

each of these is a heck of a shaft . but then i ahd to decided what i wanted this driver to do, what was i going t ouse it for esp, as i already ahve the 435 /cb50 8.2 in rotation.. no point doubling up.

so.........,

the RODDIO shingo got the nod, bec it plays to 44.75 inch with tip weight , SW @ 2.25 , 321+- gram , head weight 199 g

i didnt want it to be an out and out accuracy club. i want to get this thing singing, i dont mind if it goes a bit awry form time to time iwant to wail on it assssssssssssssssss. so it cudnt be too heavy either.

the roddio got tbec the noir is a control shaft, the diamanaX is low and htis head isnt what ud call a soarer... the crazy boron i think is a wee bit too soft for my preference, the stingers well i got a heap of them playing already.............

the roddio is taught its high its unbeleiveable feeling and ........ iu love how it looks.....

the other main choire was the sigma50 bec its 81 gram and it hammer time, but i thought this might make the club too heavy overall.

im saving the sigma for a kamui kp-x in 10.5* that i can basically happy gilmour .

ill go head to head sigma 50 VS p9003x

itll be ready tonight.

THIIS.. will be interesting

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Hmm sounds like more Testing!

Although my JBeam thing is mad long... Really is!!

I cant believe just how much roll this baby gives!!

My Only criticism , it's very Harsh off the club Head!!

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the jbeam harsh???????

good lord..... i find it the exact opposite. its mushy dull and muted.

THUD..........................,

compare this and the kp-x and ul lfind the opposites allright the kpx feels much harsher.

i had a jbeam 425 tour with crazy black 50, the original a long time ago, sold it bec........

yup u guessed it........

i played it too well.

no point. had to change.

im sick, twisted and totally deranged....................................
:atsg_smilie_punch:
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well ill tell you next week i guess.

im gonna take hte

jbeam 435-crazy cb50

jbeam 425 tour-roddio shingo m6

kamui kp-x-GD p9003x

kamui kp-x--crazy sigma 50 out for a wail off....

see what happens.

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well ill tell you next week i guess.

im gonna take hte

jbeam 435-crazy cb50

jbeam 425 tour-roddio shingo m6

kamui kp-x-GD p9003x

kamui kp-x--crazy sigma 50 out for a wail off....

see what happens.

I love reading your reviews supo.

When the US OEM's come round my way for a range session, I'm the 1st to sign up to test all their clubs and shaft combos, I love it, but you sir are in my idea of Nirvana, getting to buy/test the best that JDM can offer.

Fair play mate. Keep up the good work.

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well.........................

jbeam 435--crazy 50 cb

jbeam, 425 tour---roddio shingo

kamui pro kpx 10.5--gd p9003x

kamui pro pkx 9.5*---GD bb7s

j beam 435 hte lowest by a long way, most powerfull thru the impact and id think the longest overall IF ur palying on tigh dry runway fiarway conditions.

flight is extremely strong adn misses dont go all over the place.

at address look is very square and flat , if u hit high s as a bad miss , u cud do much, much worse than get one of these .

its really long but i wouldnt call this an all rounder.

id play this at NSW... turtle bay... courses where the wind is a significant factor and u dont have to play many various shaped shots.

think bomb /gouge to the nth degree. its the KING of bombers . straight, running bombers.

jbeam 425 tour....

shorter at 44.75 once again flat and sqaure to look at. but a wee bit more compact than the 435 so u can imagine shaped shots more. hit a LOT of balls withthis driver to get used to it. took a while, but the last 10 i hit were spot on. got it centered and had it singing a sweet tune.

its plenty long its def higher than the 435 BUT NOT BY MUCH... had the ball teed up at 45 mm which was max. bal lfligh was mixed cud get it low and strong and high and floating but over all its was mid low and piercing, angle of decnet was great im thinking plenty of extra yards with roll out , but with more carry than the 435.. def NOT as punchy as the 435 but its a lot more workable . and i dont think its quite as long overall, but it will be damn close. great all rounder can take his baby out in everything.

top stick..,

kamui pro kpx 9.5*-- bb7s

changed the weight config about a bit and boy what a differnce it made.

the mathcing head shaft is PERFECT, damn perfect. the low head flight is slightly off set by the higher flight of the haft and the trajectory came out mid. just above low, but iwont call it low. its higher than the jbeams.

carry was longer than both jbeamsconsistantly and it was happy going righ , left straight, much like the 425 tour.

at address the toe LOOKs like it sits up high but its dead flat, the shape of this head is the most appealing of all heads ive got it just screams hit me over left field as hard as u can, that where im going pal...! but truth be told , i had my nice power fade going and im telling ya this thing is a monster. its totally differnt feel ,much more tingy nad glassy feelig, the jbeams are muted.

iwas going to swap the head off this shaft, but not any more its a beauty, greaT MATCH.

is it long???

no.

its fricken humnogously long. i was carrying this well past the others. and its a lot nicer feeling to me. i like that pingy tong kinda feel sound., its a keeper nad a gamer.

"trusty" kamui pro kpx --gd 9003x.

44.5 inch huge face thats closed 0.5* .

idont miss this club. tis not the longest but its not the shortest, the head weight is too light to go far. even with the 83 gram shaft.

this is my best control driver than i can hit about as long as ud prob need.

if i was to rid my slef of every driver bar 1..

this is the driver id keep.

till im old and need a lighter shaft.

i think the 10.5 * in this head is slightly too high,

i will be gettign a custom 10* at 200 gram nad putting the diamana 70 s x in it .

and playing it to 44.75 inch d2/ d3 nad about 320 grams. square or maybe slightly closed face.

then u might see some really really good pieces pop up in BST.

the major thing baout hte kamui i love folks is the head shape....

its totally differnt to others. the toe looks massively upright but it aint. its the design

some might not like that shape but if u want a mental picy of a draw at address

like i do bec im a ade all hitter...............

then this is the huckelberry

overall...,

longest prob still the 435 then the 9.5 kpx

best control 10.5 gd p9003x then the 425 tour.

stews club..... still to come..,

but its

prob the cstom one im going to get done, amalgamte the best diamana shaft with a bit more punch and a bit more heeight of 10* at a short length.

the best driver ofthese is the one that sute yr swing paln, if ur a hooker the nthe jbeam cant be beaten. if ur a slicer then the kamui will look like heaven on a stick.

it does to me.

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5 days of:

ryoma d1---crazy 80 ls noir 7.7 9.5*

kamui pro pk-x ---diamana X 70 s 10*

jbeam 425 tour---roddio m6 proto shingo spec 2010 9*

consistantly the most reliable was the ryoma. finding fairways when not dead centered this is the winner. and its a noticeable winner...........

the miss hits with this over the 5 days were easily the best. even when i was hitting horribly i wasnt really dead. and i hit some shockers.

the good ones were good distance without standing out that put me well into play.

i get htis combo pretty high and "normally " with a small draw, but the weekend i had the slices on so the over all distance wasnt great.

the ones i did get well were pretty perfect.

cud play this driver exclusively and never long for another IF i wanted total consistancy. like any normal golfer does....

BUT....................,

then theres the jbeam 425 tour...

this IS the longest of these. out of the screws, this is the kahoona.

on the first day when i was actually driving very well, this was the longest from centre.

by id think 10+ yards. over the kamui, they play same length 44.75 inch..

(the ryoma at 45) but getting this to go straight is anothe thing. 9* is PROBABLY a tough ask for all but the best drivers

i cud easily have used another1* at least in this.... and if so id think id wud have been even longer.

but as it is . the ability to get this to draw is non existant.. every shot is a straight thump with afade to the right.... 100% of the time

hence its too stiff or too low.. the launch wasnt high enough. esp with the cut down shingo spec..... at the full length shing this thing would be amazing im thinking.

alas. this one stayed in australia bec the use of it on longy links will be super.

miss hits with it are NOT as long as the others bec the amount this slices takes yards off the ball.

the jbeam IS the longest driver form the middle. but its also has the biggest dispersion.

the kamui kp-x....

is 10 either side of the other 2 on average.

last 4 months ive been gaming this for a reason.

i hit this appalingly badly over the weekend. so much so i had to drop it for the ryoma last 2 days.

but as a collective good-bad-ugly . this is my prefered driver.

i love the look of it over the other 2 .. much prefe rit...........

ilike the feel of it more.. nad i love the height it gets with the lighter weight setting.

i didnt put the heavier weight setting s in it .. asi wanted it to soar... when igot it that it did do ver ywell. but i wasnt hitting it well.

its no where near as "calm" as the ryoma on bad days. (i think thats as much the shaft seleciton as the head)..

the better middled shots were prob 10+ behind the jbeam .. which.............makes u think 10 + yards aint a lot. but its about full iron yea?

horses for courses.

i like them all a lot.

ryoma =most consistant

jbeam= longest big shots

kamui= overall prefered driver.

this was pretty definitive for me.

as i had the full gamut of good / average / horrible driving over 5 days on seriolsuly top notch tracks.

if i had to have just one.............

im mad bec i SHUD take the ryoma........

but ilike the kamui better.

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