Spoon Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 well i stumbled into this in youtube. kamui tpo7s nitrogen filled driver. suppose to have filled the head with nitrogen gas and made the face thinner which is suppose to generate a greater trampoline effect. think its gimmicky? i know powerbuilt released a nitrogen driver years ago. never tried it though. anyone have more info? il probably try it because the regular kamui tpo7s is one of my favorite drivers ever. hopefully this can finally kick out my yamaha 405d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Legal C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Legal C? Dont know. I wish i understood what they were saying in the youtube link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDM Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I cannot see how filling a head with Nitrogen gas would have any affect at all as to how it plays, as to making the face thinner, that definitely could affect performance, weather or not it would make the driver non conforming, I'm not certain, but if there's any serious performance increase from the "trampoline effect" off the face then I would assume it would be non conforming? Feel like Tario would be much better able to answer though as he always seems to have a good handle on the technical aspects of driver designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I think they trying to promote the same nitrogen benefits that one would see in a tire. I can't tell the difference in my tires except it leaks air a bit slower, i don't buy it at all in a driver. Just doesn't seem like a tech that would make a big improvement. They can increase the tramp. effect on a driver so many different ways without getting into the air within the head or making it non conforming. PRGR & Ryoma are good examples of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 nitrogen in tires is simply to remove/prevent moisture, the molecule is larger so it leaks slower, and it reacts less to heat so the pressure change is less as the tire comes to temp. i would have to assume the reason it's used here is to create higher pressure inside the club head in an attempt to increase trampoline effect. it's old tech that was tried in softball bats over a decade ago that either never seemed to catch on or never proved to be beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 T will be testing this next week, I am considering the STD TP 07, Anyone got any experience with tsd 07 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 T will be testing this next week, I am considering the STD TP 07, Anyone got any experience with tsd 07 ? Yup ehat do u eant to know? Both are very good i give the edge to the nitro. Trust me its good! The nitro being more muted. Has some of the most roll ive seen in a driver. Very forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Hey c can you tell me the head weight range? I was hoping you can adjust the weights but how would it effect the characteristics. What shaft and head weight are you playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I still don't buy the nitrogen thing. If it worked other makers would use it immediately as it's very inexpensive and should be easy to do. When the shaft is removed is there a plug and what material is it? I'd love to try this on a different head to see the before and after but it would require some sort of rubber air tight plug to keep it in I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundowner Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I still don't buy the nitrogen thing. If it worked other makers would use it immediately as it's very inexpensive and should be easy to do. When the shaft is removed is there a plug and what material is it? I'd love to try this on a different head to see the before and after but it would require some sort of rubber air tight plug to keep it in I suppose. Really good arguements.. What´s about their warranty in case of mutliple shaft changes / heading the hosel?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I still don't buy the nitrogen thing. If it worked other makers would use it immediately as it's very inexpensive and should be easy to do. When the shaft is removed is there a plug and what material is it? I'd love to try this on a different head to see the before and after but it would require some sort of rubber air tight plug to keep it in I suppose. I am sure they know what they are doing. Gimmick or not its defintely longer than the Old tpo7s regular model. As for the head i dint even notice but im sure it is sealed airtight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Carlo has both so I guess he has the advantage of experience, T will also test next week for another opinion with a different ss Full comparison between the two would be good C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 What your set up in both C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 What your set up in both C The tpo7s had a buzz 4 star shaft The nitro had a diamana x 60s. Suggest others that have owned the tpo7s regular model chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Also didn't everyone think interchangeable weights and adjustable driver heads were a gimmick when they first appeared. New technology must start somewhere, I know this started with the powerbuilt but I don't think the quality was there with the build or the company to be taken seriously. This could make the others take notice if the numbers are good and it gains cult status like crazy has in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Some of us still think adjustable weights and heads are a gimmick. Hey all that matters is it performs right? it looks like a cool head. I'm just questioning the nitro. Intrigued yet not believing but still wanting to try it myself. Spoon do you recall what's keeping the air in the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Yep me also, don't own a adjustable driver. U right performance is king...! I wasn't convinced until a couple weeks ago...went and got a second hand air force 1, probably the worst looking driver I have ever seen man, cost $30. I tried it for a day and was V surprised at the length this thing went, probably built with the worst steel known to man & had an old aldila shaft. This thing was longer than 75% of my drivers....and with a good shaft am sure it would have been better. It is in the second hand bin for free at the club. They say love is blind so theory about to be tested. TP 07 looks sweet....! Chris....Your thoughts on the performance would also be good, keep us posted. The powerbuilt has a valve! Edited November 28, 2013 by hutchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Nitro is not new tech. Can;t remember which brand tried it quite a while back and it failed due to leakage on a shaft change. Not saying it can;t be longer but I don;t believe that its longer due to the Nitro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Nitro is not new tech. Can;t remember which brand tried it quite a while back and it failed due to leakage on a shaft change. Not saying it can;t be longer but I don;t believe that its longer due to the Nitro. As I said before it was an ozzy club manufacturer powerbuilt who introduced them.....I have never heard of any problems with leakage and my mate sells them in his store. All the nitro does is support the thinner face hence more trampoline effect. Think of it like throwing a cricket ball at a beach ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Some of us still think adjustable weights and heads are a gimmick. Hey all that matters is it performs right? it looks like a cool head. I'm just questioning the nitro. Intrigued yet not believing but still wanting to try it myself. Spoon do you recall what's keeping the air in the head? i never noticed to be honest. it was sealed for sure but did not bother to check. pretty sure they sealed it and its resistant to being heated or pulled. these guys make one hell of a driver KPX, tp07 i think gimmick or not nitro/non nitro its still one heck of a head. this is my crazy 435:) some just work. @HUTCH as for the weights, could choose draw, slight draw, fade etc etc i chose neutral weighting. makes it simpler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Thanks for the info C, I watched the link and the numbers compared to others they tested were impressive. Sound good, looks good, defo worth a bash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 The head is sealed. It is long and forgiving. Two words sum this up quite nicely. Real deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 As I said before it was an ozzy club manufacturer powerbuilt who introduced them.....I have never heard of any problems with leakage and my mate sells them in his store. All the nitro does is support the thinner face hence more trampoline effect. Think of it like throwing a cricket ball at a beach ball. So have you tried the nitro head you mate sells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 The head is sealed. It is long and forgiving. Two words sum this up quite nicely. Real deal Jeff, coming from you… gets my curiosity going. What shaft are you playing in it and can you give reference to which club combo you find it longer and more forgiving as a guide? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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