gus Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Quick question for anyone who has done work on this model. If I would like to reshaft this driver do I need to remove he entire sleeve or is it possible to pull shaft only? If I do indeed need to remove entirely any suggestions for best results? Thanks, BB Edited March 25, 2018 by gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) id recommend getting someone that knows what hes doing to do it, I had this onoff type s redone fairly recently and he left the ferrule on and had the shaft pulled. worth the hassel , bec its a good head....the driver on the rightt obvuously Edited May 12, 2018 by supo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Thanks, yes I will have a master club builder do the work. There is a sleeve that I assume is epoxied into the actual head. Inside that sleeve the shaft then is expoxed. Will I need to remove this entire unit? I believe you are saying the shaft can be pulled without compete unit removal correct? Meaning in your picture it would be the silver part. Did he remove that? Thanks, BB Edited March 26, 2018 by gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D22marshall Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I had an older one of these heads that was no good so I mucked around to see how it all works and yes you can remove the aluminium sleeve it is epoxyed in, but like stu said you don’t need to the shaft will come out without removing it. tell me if I am wrong but I think the sleeve does have some adjustment if installed in a different position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 No it was left on but I presume he slid the new shaft in to it without pulling he ferrule or he wud have removed it in the beginning when I took the old shaft out. sorry I cant offer more bec I don't have his methods to call on . thought I had an old photo of it withjout the shaft but been deleted since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Technically, these epoxied aluminium sleeves need to be removed and replaced with a new one.... says OnOff. ( same with Roddio ) Since the sleeve is epoxied into the hosel probably using the same epoxy used to bond the shaft to the sleeve, shaft removal will inevitably heat up the bond between the hosel and the sleeve and thus weaken the bond between the hosel and sleeve. Personally, I'd be hesitant to leave the sleeve in there for a reshaft. OnOff and Roddio also makes sure these replacement parts are not available in the market. They don't want hobby builders and shaft tinkerers mess around with this. In my opinion, I think this is making matters worse where incorrect reshafting is being done anyway and elevating the risk of potential failure with their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted March 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 That's what I would assume! I would never NOT pull this sleeve. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted March 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) One thing I would consider doing would be to cut the old shaft off and step drill out the sleeve. We did this a lot on the old Titleist 905r drivers. They also had this type of sleeve inserted into the head. Edited March 30, 2018 by gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) There is actually a better way. The sleeve made of aluminium can be carefully pulled out using the bigger screw extractors along with a heat gun. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-Screw-Extractor-Set/999957791?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-MechanicsTools-_-999957791:Kobalt&CAWELAID=&kpid=999957791&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=1573&k_clickID=4cddd4aa-0783-4ea7-b752-f289de7e40b6&gclid=CjwKCAjwwbHWBRBWEiwAMIV7ExUFBs-3I-laum5c1XzrqCuxzOQq67eyRz7tSqEQZMwy9wdcQyoUFxoCqg4QAvD_BwE You will be left with some small marks on the inner portion of the sleeve from the extractor catching the edges. Make sure sharp edges are filed down afterwards. DO NOT USE PLIERS to pull or rotate the sleeve as you are trying to extract it. Only rely on the screw extractor to pull the sleeve out of the head. I have done this a couple of times on Roddio heads and it worked well. Having said that, I still hate Roddio ( and OnOff ) for not providing replacement sleeves and parts for us hobby club builders. Edited April 12, 2018 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Nobs u tried calling them ? ive always found them to be extremely helpful with nay thing ive asked of them. im pretty sure they sent me a few of these a long while ago .....http://roddio.com/concierge/ the fella, bottom middle is they guy I use for my roddio stuff at Ebisu golf , hes a lovely guy, errrrr definitely not cheap. but nothing is here... he does a top job. Edited April 11, 2018 by supo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 The screw extractor is a great idea thanks! I will would feel much more comfortable removing and replacing properly. Not a big fan of taking risks with my equipment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted May 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) Quick update picked up a brand new Kuro and we where able to easily step drill the hossle out. It was really very simple with little to no heat. We used a small drill bit and continued to increase size until able to clean up the inner walls of the sleeve. Turned out perfect without any stress or a mark on the original sleeve. The only downside is you cut off and sacrifice the current shaft. For me didn't matter the stock shaft was to light, soft and had to go anyway. My advice go very slow and take your time the key is generating very low heat so epoxied sleeve stays safe and fully intact. Edited May 6, 2018 by gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Quick update, driver turned out amazing! I'm playing it for the first time this wknd I will snap a few pics to show the final product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 5/11/2018 at 8:19 PM, gus said: Quick update, driver turned out amazing! I'm playing it for the first time this wknd I will snap a few pics to show the final product. Pics please.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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