HipCheck Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 OK guys, I'm getting kind of fed up with my K. I even tried it w/an NV, but it just gave me more roll, not carry. I want a bomber for a 100mph swing speed (although that may be an oxymoron :P ) I haven't hit either of these clubs, so my choice is going to be made on feedback, advice, etc. I've heard the Gemini is consistent, but I don't know if it's long. I've heard the Nakashima is gorgeous and more workable and looooong if you hit it. I'm looking for the most length I can get with an easier swing and wind up in the short grass. I was thinking about the 26.3 or the 27.3 Fujis stiff (play a YS-6 Stiff now). Help me out! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAQ Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I don't know about anyone else here, but the Gemini setup that I am using is the longest, most accurate and easy to hit driver I've ever had. I've had a lot. Also, as in most clubs, I think the shaft is key to length. My SS is close to the same as yours. I have ordered a Nak 420 square head w/ a Tour Series in it, so I'll post some comparisons when I receive it and play a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parputt Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 Saw the line of head for the first time yesterday.Didnt hit any but if they hit 1/2 as good as they look watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkman53 Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I just recently got both a Gemini 395 and a Nakashima 420 with the expectation that I'd try both and keep the winner. I got the Gemini with the Apache Matrix 65 at 45" in the S-1 subflex, mid trajectory shaft. The Nakashima 420 has the Apache MFS 75 in S-3 with the low trajectory option, and is at 44". Both are quality shafts and quality heads, but one worked for me and the other didn't. The Gemini is very attractive and feels very sweet on contact, but for some reason I just wasn't able to control the direction of the ball on 3 different driving range sessions. It was reasonably long, but I was all over the place with direction, and lots of hooks. Maybe I was trying to overswing to get distance. Anyway, it didn't work, and it is now in the hands of someone from e-bay who will undoubtedly hit it far better than I did. The Nakashima 420 was the clear winner in my hands. The distance is easily as good as my prior SMT 455 DB with an AJ Tech Raw Gold at 46", but it is so much more controllable with the heavier, shorter, higher kickpoint shaft. The Nak sounds like a muted "thwock" and it's always surprising to me how far the ball is flying and rolling vs. the relatively quiet, solid, Titleist-like sound. The face is very deep so I can easily adjust the intended trajectory based on tee height selection. I really loved the SMT/AJ Tech, but I'm just so much more consistent with a "control" shaft, without losing any distance. It's the driver in my bag for the time being (until I club ho again, and again, etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseum). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffVader Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 untill someone gives me a Nak for a long term demo, ill never find out. ive hit absolutely nothing that has been able to unseat my gemini for the bag. im so happy with it, my ho'in days are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teampowers Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 OK guys, I'm getting kind of fed up with my K. I even tried it w/an NV, but it just gave me more roll, not carry.I want a bomber for a 100mph swing speed (although that may be an oxymoron :P ) I haven't hit either of these clubs, so my choice is going to be made on feedback, advice, etc. I've heard the Gemini is consistent, but I don't know if it's long. I've heard the Nakashima is gorgeous and more workable and looooong if you hit it. I'm looking for the most length I can get with an easier swing and wind up in the short grass. I was thinking about the 26.3 or the 27.3 Fujis stiff (play a YS-6 Stiff now). Help me out! Thanks. I will let you know soon. I just got a Gemini 395 9 degree (which measures out to 9.8 degrees) and I should be receiving a nakashima 9.5 380 this week. Both have the fuji Tour release 27.3 in X-stiff. I hit the Gemini yesterday and it was nice. A little loud, but nice. I really like the ball flight. It did not balloon on me at all and I got some roll. I need to do some more testing and wait until the nakashima comes because I will stick to one of these drivers for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffy Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I resurrected this thread because I just ordered a Nakashima NP-1 Tour Spec (i.e. square to open face angle) 420cc 10* from Rob at Tour Tuned Golf with the same Fuji 569 R flex I have in my Gemini (swingspeed 95+ with driver). The 355cc Gem is not quite as closed as the 395cc it replaced but I'd still like something square to open so I can swing harder (the best way to increase SS?) with less anxiety about a hook (my typical miss). After the Nak arrives, I'll have the Gemini shimmed open and then be able to have a legitimate head-to-head competition. I'll update in two to three weeks, is my guess. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffy Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 On Thursday, I received my new Nakashima NP-1 from TourTunedGolf. Until this morning, when I first noticed the negative posts, I hadn't realized the problems others have had with TTG, but this transaction went smoothly enough and, so far, I'm very pleased. I got a hand picked square head (rather than the standard 0.5* closed) in 420cc and 10* loft. I had it shafted with a Fuji 569 R flex, the same shaft I have in my Gemini 355c 10.5*. I played 27 holes with the Nak yesterday and was very impressed. First, the Nak felt noticably more solid than the Gemini and had a deeper, more pleasing sound. The Gemini feels and sounds a little tinny by comparison. Distance seemed to be at least comparable between the two and the Nak seems to be just as forgiving as the Gemini. The trajectory of the Nak was very nice, again similar to the Gemini. The biggest and most important difference was in the ball flight. Although the face still looks a little closed, I didn't find any draw bias with the Nak, which is exactly what I was looking for. On most full swings, and off the tee in particular, a like to fully release my right side and right arm, to produce a good trajectory and tailing draw. With the Gemini, sometimes the ball drew too much; too often I'd be in the left rough. As a consequence, I felt I was developing a bit of a blocking action, or a weak release, with the driver. This showed up with my square-faced RC 3 wood which I was tending to fade unless I made a conscious effort to draw it. Yesterday, with the Nak, similar feeling swings with the driver and my 3 wood were producing similar ball flights. Another plus is that the feel of the Nak is much more comparable to the feel of my RC fairways, which also feel very solid. For the record, on my third nine, I hit six of seven fairways (on the first eighteen, I was leaving it right a little and hit only 6 of 14 fairways). I also measured the length of my drives in the fairway, and they averaged a little over 250 yards over the full 27 holes. My swingspeed with a driver is about 95mph and I was using a Callaway HX Tour for the first time (nice carry, but scuffs up faster than the Pro V1). As of now, the NP-1 is firmly in my bag and I'm wondering what to do with the Gemini. I had planned to have the Gemini shimmed open and run a more extensive head to head with the Nak; now, I'm not sure I'll bother. If anyone is interested in my Gemini, PM me. It was assembled by Jacques Intiere of Greenwich Golf Fitting Studio and the shaft was SST pured. Grip is standard size Tour Velvet cord, logo down and sanded, length is 45". No marks at all. I'll post again after some more rounds. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Any upadtes on the Nakshima? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teampowers Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 My Nak 380 with a Harrison Striper Tour 70 is FIRMLY in the bag and it will be for a long time. I have never hit a driver more solid. The fuji tour release was a little loos for me, so I went to the Harrison and I am KILLING IT! I love the penetrating tracjectory that I am getting and the roll is good. I never used to get any, so this is an added bonus. I have a Nak 3 wood that I am going to put in the striper tour 80 in and see how that goes! Once you go Nak, you won't go back! :surprize: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipCheck Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I actually bought a Nak 380cc 9.5° w/Fuji TR 27.3 stiff. I love it. It's much longer than the 983K I was using...which is now sold :smile1: Why do I like it? 1) It's looooooong. 2) It's very forgiving compared to the Titleist. Poor shots hold their line better, winding up in the rough rather than the trees. :rough: 3) Ball flight height can be altered by tee height. 4) I can really go after a ball w/out fear that that I hit a massive hook/slice Trust me, it's not :bulls**t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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