love2golf Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 How long do you guys think it will take someone to manufacture their own weight plugs for these things? The main difference I see in the TP coming out and the release in June is a plethora of plugs being offered on the TP model. Couldn't someone just buy the standard R7 and buy after market weight plugs to make their own TP? You know they will be sold for cheap on ebay. What will be the point of the TP if this is done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemolitionMan Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 How long do you guys think it will take someone to manufacture their own weight plugs for these things? The main difference I see in the TP coming out and the release in June is a plethora of plugs being offered on the TP model. Couldn't someone just buy the standard R7 and buy after market weight plugs to make their own TP? You know they will be sold for cheap on ebay. What will be the point of the TP if this is done? I cannot remember the exact details of the specs but the regular retail model of the R7 will have a closed face, some lofts more than others, the TP version will have square to open faces depending on the loft. So face angle alone stops anyone from just adding weights to go from retail to TP. That being said, I suppose it is possible someone else can make their own weight plugs to sell as an aftermarket option. I do not know if their are patent issues (probably not), but I do know the market for selling such an add on is pretty small and not worth a sizeable investment. Ask Joe how man Freaktura weights he sold. It's more of a case of him providing a service to his customers rather than making good profits. Personally, I would rather open a lemonade stand than sell TM weight plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 But you know they (weight plugs) will be available. I guess my line of thinking is from the customer's perspective. If the retail has a closed face, you could still adjust the shot shape with the weights so that the closed face doesn't matter much anymore. I thought that was the whole point of the weights. The club characteristics such as loft and face angle won't matter that much anymore. Of course, if you bought a 7.5* driver but need 10.5* loft there's probably not going to be enough weight plug in the world to help you there, but I can't see the face being closed a degree affecting the flight that much as long as you adjust the weight plugs. I guess all I'm saying is why buy a TP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Well the tp you know has more different weight plugs. It also will have a .335 tip so you can put in fujikura's ect. the standard will have a .355 tip so it makes it hard to put in trick shafts unless you shim the hosel. there are good .350 tip shafts out there also.In about two months you can buy the tp package with all the weights if you want to upgrade.. and the tp will be square to .5 open and the regular 1 to 2 closed . 2 only if it is probally a 10.5 though. the srews could be made but the way they make them is like a floating taper screw and it would be pretty difficult to make something like that unless you had cnc machinery being also a machinist also they made them complex so we could,nt make them who cares its a great driver anyways .. Hey if you pay maybe up to a grand on the driver just pay 60 bucks for the upgrade screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Hey if you pay maybe up to a grand on the driver just pay 60 bucks for the upgrade screws. The retail is already selling for $499. The TP will probably be $699 - $799 when it comes out. Let's see, $60 for extra weight plugs or $300 for a TP..... hmmmmmm..... Not a decision to me. This is what I'm getting at. The tip is not that big of a deal to me since I would use an NV, but that's pretty crappy putting a .350 in one and .335 in the other. Just another marketing ploy to get you to upgrade and spend $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Oh yea there is always a marketing ploy, im not sure about the weight plug prices i think 40 to 60 .but its always marketing unless you cant handle looking at a closed face if you can absolutetly go for the standard R7. Lot of $ for something that will probally be just as good as the driver you are allready hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 the tp has better shafts in it it will offer 757 the nv and somehing else plus on the thing about loft wont make a difference loft on a driver dictates more the spin rate than the launch if u have a high launch using the screws but have to low a loft then u wont have enough spin on the ball to keep it in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 the tp has better shafts in it it will offer 757 the nv and somehing else plus on the thing about loft wont make a difference loft on a driver dictates more the spin rate than the launch if u have a high launch using the screws but have to low a loft then u wont have enough spin on the ball to keep it in the air You may have a point about the spin. I didn't really think about that, but I still don't ever see me buying a TP in this model. Just the TP screw package for the retail driver. (That is once I demo and determine that it can supplant my driver at that time! :wink:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 yea im not sure ive got the 510tp retail 757 i get great flight characteristics.i was tested on a launch moniter s im prob not going to change unless i wait n get a cheap one or cheaper set it for low and useit in the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Guys, these'll be available from TM soon. Pics of the expanded weight set and acompanying carrying case are floating around asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Guys, these'll be available from TM soon. Pics of the expanded weight set and acompanying carrying case are floating around asia. The additional weights have been out for a while now, but they are only 2g and 10g weights. They are expensive at like 60.00 for 4 of them. I think it will be 100.00 for the 8 plug sets. Ive got lead tape all over my R7, Im not sure if the weights really work anymore. I need 25g plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillypete Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Guys, these'll be available from TM soon. Pics of the expanded weight set and acompanying carrying case are floating around asia. The additional weights have been out for a while now, but they are only 2g and 10g weights. They are expensive at like 60.00 for 4 of them. I think it will be 100.00 for the 8 plug sets. Ive got lead tape all over my R7, Im not sure if the weights really work anymore. I need 25g plugs. That was my point of contention with the R7 since the first pics started floating around... why don't I pick up a 510 TP and a roll of lead tape and schedule some time on a launch monitor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkidneys Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Maybe I am not getting the point of this post but will the plugs for the TP version fit the standard model? I would assume they would. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Maybe I am not getting the point of this post but will the plugs for the TP version fit the standard model? Â I would assume they would.Jason Well, when I posted this I didn't know that Taylor Made would sell weight plug kits. It remains to be seen though whether the weights for the TP version will fit in the retail version. They may size them differently just for that very reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruinduke Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Speaking to a retailer (Roger Dunn's) manager yesterday he told me that the R7 and R7 TP weight ports will NOT be interchangeable. I asked him if I could buy the R7 and the weightports for the TP when they came out and he said they wouldn't fit. Can anyone verify that? It would make sense if TM wanted to make the R7 and R7TP be distinct drivers. Retail managers though at Dunn's may not be the most reliable source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabla Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 The R7 is overhiped. The weight posts wont to do sh1t for anyone who needs them. If you slice the ball, moving 8 grams wont do anything for you. Spend the money on lessions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemolitionMan Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Speaking to a retailer (Roger Dunn's) manager yesterday he told me that the R7 and R7 TP weight ports will NOT be interchangeable. Â I asked him if I could buy the R7 and the weightports for the TP when they came out and he said they wouldn't fit.Can anyone verify that? Â It would make sense if TM wanted to make the R7 and R7TP be distinct drivers. Â Retail managers though at Dunn's may not be the most reliable source. The weights are all the same for the tour, TP, and regular retail. TM can do some things that are not so cool for retailers and customers, but that would be going a little too far. I do not know where the RD manager got his info, he probably made it up. All he had to do was call his TM rep and get the real scoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 The R7 is overhiped. The weight posts wont to do sh1t for anyone who needs them. If you slice the ball, moving 8 grams wont do anything for you. Spend the money on lessions.... I am currently playing the R7 M.A.X and agree with you 100% that most swings wont be helped by moving the weights. Its actually a maximum of 20gs of weight that is able to move. I do think its longer than the DF maybe due to its new inverted cone tech but other than that it would have been nice if they kept the weights off this thing. Nice set up, pretty long, and very forgiving is what id say about it. How many grams would it take to fix your average players ball flight problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemolitionMan Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 The R7 is overhiped. The weight posts wont to do sh1t for anyone who needs them. If you slice the ball, moving 8 grams wont do anything for you. Spend the money on lessions.... I am currently playing the R7 M.A.X and agree with you 100% that most swings wont be helped by moving the weights. Its actually a maximum of 20gs of weight that is able to move. I do think its longer than the DF maybe due to its new inverted cone tech but other than that it would have been nice if they kept the weights off this thing. Nice set up, pretty long, and very forgiving is what id say about it. How many grams would it take to fix your average players ball flight problems? Answer: 150 grams! LOL Even the TM FAQ that they give to retailers says for the retailer to tell customers the driver is for the better player that has a consistent swing. If you can swing the same each time and hit a mild fade, moving the weights will give you a mild draw. Perfectly believable. But if you release early and swing out to in, you are still going out of bounds, just maybe not as far!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMMike Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Completely agree! TM has stated that the r7 is for the low to mid handicapper with a consistent swing. At least TM is being honest about the fact that this new driver will not really be a game improving club for the average weekend golfer. I have to give TM kudos for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNorman2 Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 The R7 weights and other accessories for it are available direct from TM. http://shop.taylormadegolf.com/35708401.html This link is for the 10gm weights and other parts are available by clicking around here. I wouldn't be surprised to see aftermarket weights available, if the demand gets high enough to make it worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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