Petethepilot

Anybody got any feedback on one of these? In particular if you have hit the regular SLDR! Thanks, Pete

Another thing to add to my post. Lie angles are just as important as bounce/grind. If you have too upright a lie angle, you will tend to catch the heel of the club. The heel will slow down relative to the toe and the face will turn over. Short left shots will result. Too flat (as I played for a while ) and short rights will prevail. Stock may not be the answer. A lie board session under guidance from someone who knows will sort you out. Finally, the grind will decide the characteristics of the club reference how the club passes through the grass. A wide sole will help diggers on softer ground although a wide sole (like my k grind vokey) can play with little bounce when square and lots of bounce when opened up! Too many possibilities. Look up stuff from Tom Wishon on the net. Also, a wedge grind wizard by the name of James Patrick has some good info. Saying that, some of the best grinders in the world are JDM. Learn yourself then get a wedge that will assist you...then practice. P.S. I think my 61* Titleist Elk got better as the sole got more used. Pity the grooves didn't. I will post a photo of it when I get back from Shanghai. Pete

Hi guys after reading and contributing to this post, I believe the time is right to give my take on wedge game/setup. Firstly, to truly be good (or at least better) at these shots, one must first look at your own technique and then at what is the best. Only by knowing what you do and what the best do can you firstly ; Make the right decisions about what type of wedge setup you need Improve you technique for greater consistency and results! Both of these things will contribute to vastly improved scoring. I wish to state up front that I am not a pro! I have been a low handicap amateur since age 14 (I am presently 51). I haven't played off higher than 3 since that time and I have been to scratch numerous times! I am currently off 1 and represent my club as part of the Div1 team in provincial championships. All of this with only an average long game (compared to my fellow players). Where I have excelled in is wedge play and short game. When I kept stats a couple of years ago, I was averaging 81% (122/150 shots over a 6 month period) from 100 yards to 50 yards to inside 15' or less. It is a strength of mine and something I play for when competing. With that out of the way, my method of wedge play is similar to the acknowledged greats in this type of shot! Steve Stricker, Zack Johnston, Tom Kite and Justin Leanord all have one thing in common with their technique! They all use a passive release of their hands through a wedge shot and control distance by torso rotation, both the rotation speed and the length of their backswing (ie amount of rotation)! What this gives them is a shallow angle of attack into the ball and a consistent strike and spin on the ball. With these things happening, distance control comes down to practice to fine tune how far the hit each shot. Those 4 pro's have all put the time in on the range. You will of course see them vary that shot (ie. in rough etc) but never if they are in the 'vanilla' middle of fairway position! The streaky wedge players tend to use a lot of wrist/hand action with steep angles of attack. Sure they can hit good shots but over the course of the season, they hit a lot of poor wedge shots too! Rory is very inconsistent with his wedge play! Tiger when he first came out could hit a PW 140 one shot and 180 the next. That's why he went to Butch Harmon so as to better control his Angle of attack into the ball! How do you do this? Practice your backswing to a left arm (for the right hander) level to the ground (I call that 9 o'clock position). Cock your wrists normally and maintain the wrist angle. Simply rotate through the ball whilst attempting to maintain that angle (continue to lead with the left hand) and finish in a hands high above your shoulder in your normal follow through position. To hit the shot further rotate through a bit faster. When you approach 90% maximum rotation speed, simply take the club back a little further and again gauge distance via rotation speed! With practice you will quickly be able to very accurately control and feel distance and the spin imparted will be very similar on each shot. What does this mean to me wrt wedge selection. If you are a digger ie. big divots from using lots of hands and steep AoA. You need a wedge that gives you a chance! Don't get something that looks like a knife. Have a beveled leading edge (not sharp) with enough bounce depending on your conditions (soft conditions more bounce!) to help you reduce your divot depth. Shallow divots is good for wedge play! (For those that don't know, bounce acts like an aero foil and prevents the leading edge from continuing on a downward decelerating path into the turf/sand) If you flick at the ball (right hand leading left through the shot) you actually need less bounce although examining your technique with a teaching pro would do you more good than a shiny new wedge! Short game shots around the green is a whole different (but similar) topic. Best to get some lessons or at least video some shots to look at how you are trying to play these shots. Imagination and practice are the key. Great hands help as Victor showed in the match play final last week. Hope that helps a little bit. Regards, Pete

Mikey, 61 is an unusual loft. I have a Titleist 'Elk' limited edition that is wonderful. T is probably 18 years old and I have only stopped gaming it as the grooves are going! I too play my wedge and gap wedge (52) as an extension of my set, although I am happy with them for chipping as well. My Sand iron and lob wedge are my main short game clubs, both are Vokey TVD's at the moment. I would be happy to use JDM but these have the grind that works for me best! Pete

Thanks Ryo, Can you PM me a photo and a price thanks!

Stew, Carlo, as I'm sure you know, the best grind depends on the conditions you are playing off! My conditions here in southern Tasmania are hugely different to Barnbougle just as they are to Wintery Tokyo and humid Manila. I work on the principle that Gap wedge is a chipping/pitching/full shot club therefore less bounce in firm conditions but with a beveled edge so it doesn't dig in when it is soft. Sand wedge needs a bounce for the sand but that depends on the texture. When I played with C, the bunker sand was heavy and soft, so lots of bounce needed (12*+). In Australia 8 to 10* is enough. Lob wedge should have lowish bounce but how the leading edge sits when it is opened up is more important. Bounce is your friend used properly! I have recently started using a K grind Titleist Vokey design. It is great when opened up and its widish sole just won't dig in. Happy times guys. Pete

As the title says, after a good condition 60S (genuine not made for). Shipping is to Hobart Australia! Anybody?

As the topic says, after a head only Ryoma F3. Mint condition only wanted. Thanks, Pete

Hi C, I've got a Crazy CB 80 LS Noir (8.2flex) "La Bomba" although it plays slightly less stiff than 8.2. 45" great feeling shaft! See my post in the For sale section from a couple of weeks ago! Hope you and the family are well! Regards, Pete

Crazy 80T LS Noir. 8.2 flex. One time pull with warranty. Upgraded La Bomba white colour. Plays to 45" The Noir model plays softer to flex- plays more like 7.7 Lamkin 3Gen grip. RRP - $899 Price - $475 USD Will go 1/2 in shipping

I think he is a little on the fat side these days…..but all his golf gear is good! :)

If I choose to post a club for sale here for a $1000000 it will be up to the market to decide if I have over-priced it or not. Obviously, the club won't sell. There is no quicker way to scuttle interest in a sale than some 'expert' saying something is overpriced! When dealing with something rare, what is the price? - What people are willing to pay! If you care to prove the putter is overpriced, I am certain the vendor would be willing to take that into account. If you are just blowing your opinion out of your arse, go back to whatever forum you came from! TSG is not GolfWrx, thankfully!

So a guy with 2 posts tells a TSG legend with 5000+ posts that his extremely rare putter is over-priced! Unless you want it, don't post mate. GLWS Supo and happy New Year! Pete

Sorry C, got to do something with 72 hours in Jakarta!!! I have tried for ages to get back to Manila, without success. I need to get there in Feb or I won't again as I am transferring to Domestic Australian flying only. Will let you know….now back to tread! :)

Hey Sandee, r u in Jakarta? I will be up there at the end of December for a couple of days! Pete

Hi Vince/NobM, I'm going to pass. I only have 9 wedges at home now and when I thought about it, I was only going to get them for my travel set of MP 64's. GLWS Your gear is always good Nob so someone will get a good deal. Pete

what are you after Vince? Happy to share Postage if it suits.

Hi NM, how much to ship the wedges to Australia. Doesn't need to be express! Thanks, Pete

Whoops, (confused A'hina for Stinger....Simple Mistake!) wallet slips back into pocket. GLWS

Has the Stinger been tipped NM?

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Shafts a bit soft for you Stew?

The Nudgee 'rough' strikes again Jamie!

Beautiful putter Stew. Kari does great work!

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