haribo

I was personally told the r7 was Beta ad the TP was SP-700 by the Director of TM Metalswood division about 2 months ago. I dont care either way but I'm guessing he would know. BTW a differing Ti metal would not require any different tooling or facilty either Well, I heard a different story from TM. But let's be frank for a moment ... even if you're right ... who cares? .... what does it matter????? Are you gonna score better because of that? So, why don't we agree to disagree. haribo

Again, I tried all of them ... in the moment I moved the weights around or changed them they all started to feel identical. That's the beauty of this club, you can create the feel you like. haribo

Hornyjuan, The entire R7-R7TP-R7TP Tour debate .... you know what ... I couldn't care less. Don't give me the "You gotta try for yourself or you won't belief the difference" crap ... I tried all three of them, went with the retail R7 (oh my god, hope nobody is going to faint now), got some additional weights and put an accra sc75 in it. Guess what, i couldn't be happier. haribo

I don't know about the States but here in Canada there is about a CDN$ 300 difference between the R7 and the R7TP. Consider the additional weight kit and the Fuji Speeder and you know why. haribo

The different metal story is BS. Both heads get produced in the same plant. haribo

TP has square to slightly open face while r7 is square to slightly closed. Other differences are as already stated, .350" hosel and no additional weight kit and no tm coloured speeder 757. Otherwise no differences. haribo

Can't wait to read some more in detail reviews on this Max Black ball. Thanks, haribo

no, not yet but soon haribo

MP-27's Sir. Sweet. Thanks.

just wondering ... what model is shown in the first pic, the cb's??? Thanks. haribo

check out Accra SC75 ... have one in a R7 (non TP version). About same weight as 757, plays with lower trajectory and tighter dispersion due to less torque. Because of that you'll also get more roll. I believe Accra shafts are available in Germany. haribo

Nice ... Mr Quigley has an Accra Tour series shaft in that puppy ... now that's a combo I'd like to try. haribo :cool:

I still stand to what I was saying ("Keep TSG real. Take the hype somewhere else.") but I apologize if I stepped on someone's feet. The BSG reference just made me see red. In the last while there are a lot of people showing up here from that other forum, posting only in the B/S/T folder. Not that this is a bad thing, don't get me wrong, but it would be nice if these people would realize that this is a different forum than their old one and treat it accordingly. Hope what I'm saying makes actually sense. Anyway, sorry if I offended you and good luck with your sale. haribo

checked ebay before posting earlier but couldn't find it anymore ... anyway, sorry fo a not so warm welcome but we all here have enough from the artificially created hype on that other forum. what's so special about a Cleveland tour club anyway other than a .335" hosel?

Well, that's maybe where you should sell it for that price. You might have more luck there. No offence, but one of these in 9.5* just sold last week on ebay for way less. BIN was $450. Plus, it came with a way better Fuji shaft. Keep TSG real. Take the hype somewhere else. haribo :mad:

Hi Gawain, You know me from GO as "harrycan" ... that sc75 I got from Jeff at Angus is really nice. Regarding the SC95 ... was already thinking about putting it into my 7 wood but would really prefer a shaft around 110+ gram (my 4 would shaft is 107gram and therefore would like it even a tad heavier ... weight progression). It has a Rifle currently which is alright but I'd like a higher trajectory. So, a few more grams and that sc95 would be perfect. haribo

No problem. Got a SC-75 in a driver (r7) and it is awesome. haribo

Sorry, but no 70 gram shafts in fairway woods for me. Have a Fuji HM4 (107gram) in my 4 wood and love it. Will try the T70 in a driver one day. haribo (why is everybody turning my name into "hairbo" for crying out loud...?????)

Thanks. Was just wondering. Got a SC75 and like it a lot but don't have a monster swing speed nor am I a young gun. Well, I'm not old either but not 20 anymore either. Great shaft. Tight dispersion and smooth, not boardy at all. haribo

That's kinda odd, isn't it. Any particular reason why? haribo

Get her Kwoked. I'm sure Joe can fix the problem with some silicone. haribo :smile2:

We tried chocalate but they tend to run in the heat. :smile1: Glad you caught my little joke :wink: haribo

Every forged club retail or custom grind, chocolate dipped or whatever will feel pretty much the same as long as you hit the sweet spot. As a +1 handicap ... that shouldn't be a problem for you. haribo

I'm a big fan of the Fuji 757 ... but decided to try something else for a change. That's why I didn't even bother to go for a R7 TP (why spend all the money when you pull the shaft anyway) ... therefore I went straight for a retail R7 and put an Accra SC 75 in it. Because I did this at the end of the season I didn't get much practise with it. But I know already one thing. There's no significant difference I can tell about to an "510 Tour Mid" other than size. Yes, because they are completely different heads they feel slightly different. But I can honestly say it's completely marginal. Frankly, I'm more interested in a club anyway that helps me to reduce strokes on my score card. I'm not interested in a club that just strokes my ego. This entire debate is completely blown out of proportion in my opinion. haribo

Glad if it saves you some bucks. Again worked with my 757 like a charm. Here's one other recommendation. I'm pretty impressed with Accra shafts lately and they have a shaft called SC95 that's in the 90 something gram area. haribo