haribo

TM Tour Issue 510 Mid, 350cc haribo

Great post DM and oh, so true!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I play a few tour clubs but I went not for the hype stuff but rather the things MY game will benefit from. Certainly not the newest-and-better-than-the-last-holy-grail stuff. haribo

I play a HM4 myself. X flex and it came in at 117 gram uncut. haribo

The butt of a shaft is generally bigger, more circumverance, means more material and therefore heavier. The tipp is a smaller "circle" with of course less material, hence lighter. With the HM4 the tipp is surprisingly thick walled. The opening is very narrow, hence there's more weight in the tipp, hence the counterbalance. In combination with a club head it balances out the weight of the club. That's why the swingweight of the finished club can be relatively low, while the total weight of the club is relatively heavy. Don't forget the HM4 is 117 gram heavy!!!!!!!!!!! haribo

All my clubs are D5+. Except for my 4 wood with the HM4. It's just D0!!!!! BUT it feels perfect because the shaft is so heavy. When you look closely at the HM4 you'll see that the counterbalancing is in the tipp of the shaft and not the butt. You can barely get a needle into the tipp. Meaning this balances out the club nicely. Got a 7 wood with Rifle shaft and need tons of lead to get it to feel right. My 4 wood on the otherhand feels perfect with no lead whatsoever and only D0 swingweight. What I'm saying is don't get fooled by a technically low swingweight. Hit it first before you add weight. You might be in for a surprise. haribo P.S. Mmh ... my 7 wood smoothy feels great with the Rifle ... but maybe I should try a HM4 in there as well ... didn't even cross my mind because i wanted something heavier as in my 4 wood ...

Have a look at bruinduke's "Firesole Forged" thread below. Same clubs, except the FF are been forged at Miura while the x-300 FCI come from Mexico. Only other difference is FF are chrome and x-300 are satin. haribo

;rofl haribo

Bump for a great club. Have the 420Tour myself. It is an awesome head. Very rare and very good. Never played the TP but I have friends who played all the high end tour drivers, TP/DF/XD. They believe the 420Tour is actually better. haribo

I believe it was actually Jack who said "The more I practise, the luckier I get." If someone is a hack, luck most likely is a "one-hit-wonder"; for a skilled professional luck is purely based on skill. The better he is, the luckier he might get. It could be the difference between a big and not so big paycheck. (just look at the bad luck Maggert had two years ago at the Masters. Hitting himself while trying to get out of a bunker, cost him the tournament.) haribo P.S. Radd, on a personal note ... after your last pleasant and insulting PM you still owe me an apology.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mickelson has about 23 wins. VJ has 17. haribo

Two things I'd like to add. 1. Fuji is famous for offering shafts to fit all kind of swings. The trick is to find the right one. That means it depends on the individual which Fuji is best suited. You can have two scratch players, one likes the 757 while the other doesn't. Frankly, it has nothing to do with handicap. 2. It doesn't matter how fast one swings. Period. All that matter's is HOW does one swing fast. Where during the swing does a person create speed is so much more important. Again, you can have two people with the same swingspeed. But the first needs an stiff flex and the other one is better off with an X-flex. I'm surprised that there are still people who don't seem to understand this. haribo

I could actually see that finish for a 49* pitching wedge. Glare wouldn't be much of a factor and it would fit in nicely with the (chrome) irons. haribo

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!! Ari. YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! haribo :D

Correct. The 27.3 should fit the bill. haribo

I have a 420Tour. Head does have rails on top. It is not a smooth top. It is a very rare tour head since TM released the 500 series too quickly for their own good. haribo

Jeffy, welcome to the club!!!!! haribo :lol:

Here's what Ari emailed me about the "Tango&Cash" grind. Thought some people here might find this interesting/intriguing. Also, Ari is way better at explaining things than I would/will ever be. (Ari, I hope you won't mind me passing this on.) "The basic idea behind this grind is to make the wedge play like a thinner sole wedge from the fairway and around the green and a thicker sole wedge from a bunker. It also exhibits more stability on all shots thanks to the beefier heel and toe. The basic problem that I see in the Trusty Rustys is that the sole is too thin and flat. In our grind we round the leading edge a little more, just a litle bit more camber and the thicker sole. But to offset the thicker sole we make the middle trailing edge grind a little thicker and wider. Basically this grind is designed as a do everything wedge for someone who doesnt get too steep and doesnt take big chunky divots. It is especially good out of the sand for a versitile wedge. The other grinds that we do to make the wedge more versitile all detract from the clubs playability out of the sand. Alot of these grinds also make the wedge less stable on full shots and partial shots around the green. This grind does none of that. If it has a weakness compared to an aggressive heel and trailing edge relief grind it is flop shots. It sits very well on flop shots but if you open the wedge TOO much it can sit up a little. Take away the heel and it will sit a little flatter. But then you give up alot in other areas." haribo

Thanks Ari. That was quick. haribo

Thanks ari for the pic. Have some as well. maybe somebody can tell me later (not home currently) how tro post them. As I daid earlier, the grind is inspired by the Trusty Rusty. But is yet completely different. It is very obvious when you see the sole. It's a lot wider. Also, there's more camber, different leading edge, etc. Well, couldn't resist and played a round in pouring rain. :lol: Although my game is still pretty rusty from the long winter break (2. time out) I can already say I'm in love with my new wedges. They feel great. Anyway, more later. haribo

Mike, they do look absolute sweet!!!!!!! Can't wait to take them out. Trust me, I had a list of (anal) details for Ari. From slightly different shaft length for the two wedges, FCM stepped shafts ... to the tape job for the grips (1 + 1 + 4 half wraps of tape on the tapered down part od the grip) The only part where they "screwed" up is, I actually requested 1 inch black ferrules, tapered down. Like the same look on all my irons. But the 3/4" black ferrules will do just fine. :lol: Ari and Scratch Golf did an awesome job. The craftmanship is first class. To be honest I'm quite flattered that Ari thinks this versatile grind I inspired him to, might be of interest for other's as well. Well, hope the weather stays dry over the weekend so that I can give my new wedges a thorough welcome on a practise green. haribo

Received this morning my new Scratch wedges!!!!! 54* + 58* "TANGO & CASH" grind, antique finish with silver paintfill (Logo and loft # only). The grind is something special. Inspired by my beloved Trusty Rusty wedges but with a few modifications. It's a very versatile grind and I'm sure Ari is more than happy to chime in with all the details. Btw, Ari liked the grind so much, he made a wedge for himself as well. So, everybody who always wanted a very versatile grind ... give Ari a call. I'm sure he's more than happy to set you up!!!! As soon as I get some pics taken I will get them up here. Until then I would like to thank Ari and Scratch Golf for a job very well done. The wedges look gorgeous and if they perform only half as good as they look I'll be a happy camper. Thanks. haribo

Question: What flex did you have in your Rifles? If it was 6.0 ... the reason for drawing might be simple. S300 is a softer flex. haribo

I believe they are called TP9. Mizuno released them only in Europe. haribo

Kr0nik, Joe. Thank you for making with way better words the point I tried to make. I appreciate that. haribo P.S. There are no emotions involved on my side about this topic. Frankly, I couldn't care less. I just find some people's sales tactic's annoying and misleading. Completely dislike some people's need to create hype in order to make a quick buck. (That's one of many reasons why I left a certain other forum.)

"finally, someone put a lid on all that tour grind BLA BLA". Well, I said that. When you look closely at the WIMB you will see that I do play Miura tour forgings, Firesole Forged. My problem are not the tour forgings themselves. It's the guys who hype them up artificially just to push the price into oblivion. People who try to tell everybody that the Lehman grinds are a different breed all together. But certainly not some 300's that got a little different toe grind. (Which is what Joe proofed.) Because that certainly doesn't justify such a huge upcharge. Btw, in case you're wondering I paid less than half what people asking for Lehman grinds. Bottomline is, you can pay for good clubs or you can pay for hyped up one's. haribo