[email protected] Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 There seems to be some really serious golfers around. I wonder though, with all the shafts and club models that exist, how you decide what to buy, when you cant try it first ? Trying to avoid some serious letdown buying stuff that then does not work for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly_sam Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Well, many times companies will have a matching sytem based of handicap or swing speed. Use this as a guid to decide what your going to buy. Trying is definately priority before you make any purchase for golf. Shafts are tough to do, but demo days can help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky3 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 How do you do that? click on 'add to basket', enter CC No., close eyes & pray...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 click on 'add to basket', enter CC No., close eyes & pray...... lol Corky, i reckon we've all done that..... as shaft is most important.... try and find what suits best ..... some of the companies have online matching systems.... But ultimately, if it doesn't work try again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 lol Corky, i reckon we've all done that.....as shaft is most important.... try and find what suits best ..... some of the companies have online matching systems.... But ultimately, if it doesn't work try again.... Very true, the online machines and even the launch monitor IMO dont really help that much.... ie ive been on it twice and got on terribly with the shafts recommended. the only way i have ever found a shaft i liked was through trial and error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky3 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Very true, the online machines and even the launch monitor IMO dont really help that much.... ie ive been on it twice and got on terribly with the shafts recommended. the only way i have ever found a shaft i liked was through trial and error! Plus1 I have had the same experience, specs and launch monitor all show me one thing but I actually play/hit better, the complete opposite..... mind you 'I'm still searching'..... That's half the fun...... the eterrnal quest for 'the one'....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poekie Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 trial and error! As hitting them in the shop or on the range once or twice won't help! Most of the time when i buy something new i always thinks this one is better then my current club. But most of the time after a few rounds i lost that feeling and went back to the old club and selling the new one. But trial and error is still the best method and an launch monitor can help a bit so you don't have to try that many out (but as a HO you don't want that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Plus1 I have had the same experience, specs and launch monitor all show me one thing but I actually play/hit better, the complete opposite..... mind you 'I'm still searching'.....That's half the fun...... the eterrnal quest for 'the one'....... my sentiments entirely!!!!! The search for our Holy Grail continues lol! :tsg_smilie_whistle: :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 FEEL A launch monitor can't measure that. That's why the equipment companies love us. That's why the metal in the irons has become softer. The next best thing to trying before you buy is to take the advice of your fellow HOs :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramizuno13 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 You can go to Club-fitting demo days organized by different golf shops in your area. Go to a manufacturer's web-site and click on the demo-day link. It will tell you where and when. Be cautioned though, not all company reps are professional club-fitters. They will just get you to try there clubs and recomend standard specs. In So. Cal., only Mizuno and Ping have certified club-fitters. Hope this make you club buying earier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 You should probably read as much as you can to familiarize yourself with a lot of what's out there. Then based on what you think (or if you have launch monitor results that's even better) and your past experiences with other types of equipment, you can make a somewhat educated decision. The fact is though, that it might not play the way you want. If you choose to go down this path, just expect to spend a LOT more on equipment than you're used it. It's somewhat of an addiction as once you try a few different things, you keep wanting to try more things out. Long term, you might even want to get your own equipment to do your own pulls and re-shaft your own stuff just because it'll give you more options and it'll save you money. If you're fortunate enough to have access to a launch monitor, even better. The short answer is you will buy things without knowing how they will play. There's no way for the golf ho's of the world to try everything we want before we buy. Here's an example... I'm sure most of us out there want to try an Ozik TP7. I don't even know a person (personally) that has it. The only thing I have to go on is other people's opinions and try to get a feel for their description based on how they compare it to other stuff I've actually used. Now, will I go and get an Ozik TP7? Doubt it. But if I come across a pretty good deal with one in there I'd probably get it just to try it. Just as an example of how much you might expect to pay. I'd say the average active member on most of the golf equipment boards spend 4-5 times more (or even more than that) than the average golfer on equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruinduke Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) If you can afford it then trial and error isn't such a bad thing. It helps when the clubs can hold onto their value for a certain duration. Maintaining .75 cents on the dollar spent isn't too bad. If equipment was the sole requirement to improving you would see many of the ho's on the boards on tour. As it is most of the utility comes from trying something new in the hopes you'll see a proportional increase in your game. Some might disagree with me, but clubs can allow you to play to your potential, but don't often allow you to pass your potential in golf. Just my .02 cents. Edited December 12, 2005 by bruinduke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 If you can afford it then trial and error isn't such a bad thing. It helps when the clubs can hold onto their value for a certain duration. Maintaining .75 cents on the dollar spent isn't too bad. If equipment was the sole requirement to improving you would see many of the ho's on the boards on tour. As it is most of the utility comes from trying something new in the hopes you'll see a proportional increase in your game. Some might disagree with me, but clubs can allow you to play to your potential, but don't often allow you to pass your potential in golf. Just my .02 cents. i totally agree with you here bruinduke! this is one thing that i have always stated to friends.......i tell them i change because i enjoy it, that technology allows me to play to my potential....but never have i thought or stated that it will make me a better player!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Slaughter Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 i just buy bc i want it,lol. ive bought all my stuff without trying it. its easy. if i can hit rappy old blades i should be able to anything,lol. i bought an r7 without trying it bc ive wanted it bc i know it works bc ive seen my buddies use it. alotof the time i buy stuff bc its for sale at a very cheap price. i can never ind it at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 i just buy bc i want it,lol. ive bought all my stuff without trying it. its easy. if i can hit rappy old blades i should be able to anything,lol. i bought an r7 without trying it bc ive wanted it bc i know it works bc ive seen my buddies use it. alotof the time i buy stuff bc its for sale at a very cheap price. i can never ind it at that price. Probably the best way to be sgt...because even though equipment does vary a lot nowadays, no company makes BAD golf clubs...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 for most of us we probably buy something because we like the look of it rather than having done extensive testing.... For me its usually about personal preference. Also, if someone I know and trust recommends it i'm likely to give it a go.... That's what I hate about being friends with plus1..... he's always got something in his bag that I fancy having a go with.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe295 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 In theory testing everything before you purchase is the way to go about acquiring new clubs. Launch moniter, range time, even a round or two before you part with the cash. The operative words being "in theory" . As with most theoretical ideas it makes nice copy but is not practical in real life. I've found Corky's method of point and shoot to be the case more often than not, what I've heard refered to as the old "wing and a prayer" method. Do your best to get it right based on as much info as can be garnered from places such as this and use any of several payment options. Or move to Ireland and hang with Plus1 as he has to have the largest selection of equipment in captivity by anyone NOT affliated with a manufacturer or retailer! :tsg_smilie_wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 perhaps one of the best ways to try gear without buying is coming to this forum and let others spend their cash trying everything under the sun on your behalf and you can learn from their experiences..... only problem is then you get spoilt for choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 In theory testing everything before you purchase is the way to go about acquiring new clubs. Launch moniter, range time, even a round or two before you part with the cash. The operative words being "in theory" . As with most theoretical ideas it makes nice copy but is not practical in real life. I've found Corky's method of point and shoot to be the case more often than not, what I've heard refered to as the old "wing and a prayer" method. Do your best to get it right based on as much info as can be garnered from places such as this and use any of several payment options. Or move to Ireland and hang with Plus1 as he has to have the largest selection of equipment in captivity by anyone NOT affliated with a manufacturer or retailer! :tsg_smilie_wink: lol very good shoe! reason why im not affiliated with a golf company is cause they cant AFFORD me ! :tsg_smilie_rolleyes: but serious, the best thing to do is first of all get others opinions on the clubs, hear their experiences and comments and then relate them to your individual game. once you have done this you should then go and demo the club or shaft! or in the case of import goods, say a prayer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 lol very good shoe! reason why im not affiliated with a golf company is cause they cant AFFORD me ! :tsg_smilie_rolleyes: but serious, the best thing to do is first of all get others opinions on the clubs, hear their experiences and comments and then relate them to your individual game. once you have done this you should then go and demo the club or shaft! or in the case of import goods, say a prayer! or even better get a good friend who knows your game and can make proactive recommendations. Thanks plus1.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky3 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 or even better get a good friend who knows your game and can make proactive recommendations. Thanks plus1.. Also as part of your product investigation don't forget to ask PLUS1...... he'll have tried it already (maybe he could sell it to you at a a 'nice' price). LOL :tsg_smiley_yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe295 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 A second or third job also helps as the paypal account needs replenishing often. It also helps to be willing to resell those purchases that don't work out for you. I have problems with this as my corners are filling up with lots of stuff I no longer use but can't seem to part with. *shake head* *scratch stomach* *reach for coffee cup* But then again the stuff doesn't complain about being there and it is kinda fun to watch it accumulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 A second or third job also helps as the paypal account needs replenishing often. It also helps to be willing to resell those purchases that don't work out for you. I have problems with this as my corners are filling up with lots of stuff I no longer use but can't seem to part with. *shake head* *scratch stomach* *reach for coffee cup* But then again the stuff doesn't complain about being there and it is kinda fun to watch it accumulate. i know how you feel shoe, lol. i used to be able to actually walk into my garage, not i can barely open the door. but each club i keep brings back good memories and i just cant let go lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 the problem with most impulse purchases it they cost a fortune new, but once hit are not worth 2 cents.... so they're worth more to us than selling them on at a massive loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramizuno13 Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 C'mon guy's, I know all of you can find a manufacturers' professional club-fitter day in your area. The pro's do it for the same reason you should; It works! No extra money and the clubs are built to your exact specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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