gth1017 Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 So I buy a set of 52* and 58* copper Epons from 808hack on B/S/T. I've already got the J's, think they may be about the best I've ever had, so I'm excited to try the wedges. Box comes, and what a surprise!!! First of all, pictures don't describe how good looking these wedges are. The color and the shape are like miniature works of art. Fit and finish, even down to the copper color of the Epon proprietary ferrule, are first class and unlike I've seen on even the finest clubs. But now the surprise! The 52* has a heel/trailing edge grind and the 58* has an "M" grind that are perfectly ground and look like someone spent hours and a lot of money to accomplish. When I mentioned to 808 that he hadn't told me about the grinding, he says "Oh, yeah, guy named Calvin Matsui here in Hawaii ground those--he's done a little work for Gauge Design". Well, the grinds are done as well as any I've seen and what a great surprise. Two incredible wedges with fantastic grinds. Now, having said all that, going to play with them for the first time in about an hour. If there as good as I think they'll be, there in the bag for quite a while. If not, tune into BST for your chance to own two great looking wedges ground by a master!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Be sure to give them a few rounds and then post a review!! Looking foward to reading about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha_pro Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 hehe, yah all those clubs were mine, well before i sold them to 808hack. carlton masui did those grinds for me, also known as TBC or "tuned by carl". and just to let you know that i polished/light sanded off the chemical purple on the wedges also, they dont normally look like that, they now have more of a copper look. enjoy the clubs! (i miss them already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 hehe, yah all those clubs were mine, well before i sold them to 808hack. carlton masui did those grinds for me, also known as TBC or "tuned by carl". and just to let you know that i polished/light sanded off the chemical purple on the wedges also, they dont normally look like that, they now have more of a copper look. enjoy the clubs! (i miss them already) I thought those might have been yours! I remember you describing them in earlier posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruinduke Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I am glad they landed in your hands G. That means I'll probably have a shot at them. Hope you get back in the saddle again soon. Being bionic must have some advantages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) I am glad they landed in your hands G. That means I'll probably have a shot at them.Hope you get back in the saddle again soon. Being bionic must have some advantages? Back already, too cold and wet to play but a few holes! Hit the 58* once (range was closed), and had a good result. Strange, the heads seem a little closed at address and felt like I needed to manipulate it open. We'll see as I get a little more time with them. Yah, Duke, surgery on the 30th, and with two fake hips watch out. I'll be whipping through the ball as fast as Tiger. And yes, sooner or later you'll get a shot at these wedges--you know you will, and sadly it doesn't matter how well they perform. After all, there could be something better out there that I've never played!! Edited January 20, 2007 by gth1017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 His name is Carlton Masui from ParGolf72 he does many of the wedge grinds for the top players in Hawaii. Grinding the Type Js a tad is possible because the heads are heavy, in regards to the wedges which are average weight if you remove more than 10g and add that to the hosel with brass tip weights you will move the CG 1/64th of an inch toward the heel. So it all depends how much is taken off the wedge. Carlton and I have a suprise for you guys coming soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 sadly it doesn't matter how well they perform. After all, there could be something better out there that I've never played!! OMG!!! That's how I think!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe295 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Carlton and I have a suprise for you guys coming soon. Oh this is something I really need to hear....experience has shown that when Mr. Chris leaks a piece of info like this it means he has something exceptionally attractive in the works which results in a raising of my blood pressure, increased sweating of my palms, and the urge to dump money into paypal account. Sigh, I guess I should be used to it by now but it still sets me on pins and needles in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I sense the TSG wedge with some really excellent grinding. Played with the wedges today and OMG, great feel on every kind of shot imaginable. Thanks to the grinding, the 58 was money out of some wet fairways, and the 52 really great for greenside chips. And, about 30 guys walked up to the bag to see what these great looking copper things are. Will give a more detailed review in a couple of days. I'm a fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longdrive55 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Let's see some pix of these bad boys, especially the grinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha_pro Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 the pics are still on my witb post. just click on my signiature where it says WITB pics. i just havent updated that for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 the pics are still on my witb post. just click on my signiature where it says WITB pics. i just havent updated that for a while. Yep, that's my babies. By the way, thanks for the excellent pictures of the clubs--now I won't have to take any before I sell them! LOL They are incredible looking and so far the love affair is still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 i'm glad to hear you like my grind. tad fujikawa loves them too.like chris said, keep an eye out.............. Ah, if the young man only had my game!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 i'm glad to hear you like my grind. tad fujikawa loves them too.like chris said, keep an eye out.............. Here is another one you did that I think the members would love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance99 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here is another one you did that I think the members would love: That's good stuff. And here I thought the TSG grips were the ant's pants. What's the benefit of the "dimple" in the sole of a wedge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here is another one you did that I think the members would love: Chris the wedge is superb!! ......it's been two days now, where is he SURPRISE from yourself and Carlton??? ....only kidding, however my view is the same as shoe295. I eagerly await the release of the surprise!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 wow this is awesome carl! thumbs up from me - you may be getting an email very soon! lol what grinds does tadd fuji have on his callys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 G, it's sounding like you've become and Epon man. How are you liking the irons and driver? Will they last to the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 G, it's sounding like you've become and Epon man. How are you liking the irons and driver? Will they last to the summer? Irons and wedges firmly in the bag. The driver, unfortunately, has moved on to its new rightful owner. Strange but true, I can't find anything (and those who know me know I've tried) that is hotter for me than a retail G2 Ping with a 757 in it. Any ideas--for me it wasn't the Epon with the Code 6? Absolutely one of the best looking drivers I've ever seen and the craftsmanship is superb. But...........more yards, not for me. All suggestions welcomed and appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Yea G, I would say tinker more with shaft and specs than heads, todays drivers are all pretty much maxed out in technology. I think it was a mistake to sell the epon when perhaps another shaft could have set things up better than ever. Ozik tends to give a lower tight flight and is not known to add any extra distance. How did it go for you in TSgirls fitting threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I think G needs to try an Epon w/ a low kicking Axiv combo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth1017 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I think G needs to try an Epon w/ a low kicking Axiv combo.... Funny that you mention it, but I've got a 405 TourStage with an Axiv 6064 SR Mid Kick that I kinda like. Shaft has potential. A 10.5* Epon with the same shaft but with a Low Kick is on it's way to me for use next week. Going to give it a try. Re Chris' idea that I should have kept the head and switched shafts, just can't do that. Bad karma. Head and shaft are a unit and if you split them up, well, need I say more. Rather start all over. That's why PayPal was created. I think I'm about to go through another Japanese phase--which is a kick because the stuff is just so gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Here is another one you did that I think the members would love: Chris, further to the previous, could you advise what exactly has been done to the wedge in the photograph. It looks to me like: 1) P grind ie concave sole 2) Heel relief 3) Toe relief 4) Some grinding to take off some of the weight on the back bottom portion of the wedge 5) It has been refinished in something? ie not the original chrome. Once again C has done a great job on that old Cleveland!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha_pro Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Chris, further to the previous, could you advise what exactly has been done to the wedge in the photograph.It looks to me like: 1) P grind ie concave sole 2) Heel relief 3) Toe relief 4) Some grinding to take off some of the weight on the back bottom portion of the wedge 5) It has been refinished in something? ie not the original chrome. Once again C has done a great job on that old Cleveland!! carlton masui is responsible for the grinding. and what you said is pretty much what it had done to it. the interesting thing about this one is the muscle on the back of the club has been ground down. spectacular work! and i believe it was left raw or it was gun blued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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